Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

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  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 23875

    Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

    All announced within the last few days! What's everyone think?

    Here are a few thoughts of my own:

    JDS owns Gonzaga, probably a first round KO. Gabe has proven that he's far from un-KOable and I don't think JDS is going to have a real hard problem doing so. Hopefully we get a good line on JDS. This is a 3u play for me.

    Belcher/Cote is hard to call. They're both good fighters, if not elite. Cote has a chin of iron and presumably hits hard as hell, so if he catches Belcher with a good shot then I think it could be lights out. However, Belcher's ground game should be a level above Cote's so if the fight goes there then I could see him getting a sub. Gun to my head, I'd probably pick Belcher on this one . . . but maybe that's just because he's a Mississippi boy.

    Kampmann/Saunders is also hard to call. Saunders has actually looked pretty impressive to me lately and in a pure striking match I actually think he would take this fight. Kampmann's standup, while being solid, is actually relatively disappointing in light of him often proclaimed as being a "former kickboxer." However, if it goes to the ground then I think Kampmann should have the advantage. In an even money fight, I'd probably have to roll with Kampmann, but at good underdog odds I think Saunders would be a worthwhile play.
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  • Mr. IWS
    215 Hustler
    • Sep 2006
    • 97672

    #2
    Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

    Love the card. I think JDS will probably take that one over Gonzaga. I think Matshushenko is fighting Elliot Marshall on the card too.
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    • SPX
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 23875

      #3
      Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

      Yeah, the announced matchups so far are:

      Vera VS Jones
      JDS VS Gonzaga
      Rumble VS John Howard
      Matyushenko VS Elliot Marshall

      At the right lines, I think ALL these fights are bettable. I've already got 2u on Jones, and I like both JDS and Rumble up to -300, and Matushenko probably up to -200 or even -250.
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      • Mr. IWS
        215 Hustler
        • Sep 2006
        • 97672

        #4
        Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

        that card is PPV worthy. especially compared to the last UFC ppv.
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        • zY|
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 8385

          #5
          Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

          Gonzaga was only KOd by Carwin, who appears to have the power to KO Godzilla. I don't see how that's a knock on Gonzaga. JDS should probably be the favorite but Gonzaga is a goddamn beast who is a danger to anyone. He only loses to top fighters and everyone else he demolishes. I'd like to see what happens if he can get JDS on his back.

          Saunders actually has terrible striking, he was destroyed by Swick who doesn't have great striking himself. His clinch is disgustingly brutal though with his height and length. Kampmann probably has the advantage on the ground but again Saunders length makes him dangerous and he's also not out of his element on the ground. I think Kampmann should win. Saunders also has the distinction of having the absolute gayest nickname in history.

          Cote to me just seems like your stereotypical tough brawler who is happy to take 2 shots to land 1. Supposedly he hits hard but Kendall Grove knocks himself out shaving so I'm not really impressed by KOing him. I think Belcher is far better all around and should be the favorite.

          All are interesting fights though.
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          • SPX
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 23875

            #6
            Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

            Originally posted by zY|
            Gonzaga was only KOd by Carwin, who appears to have the power to KO Godzilla. I don't see how that's a knock on Gonzaga. JDS should probably be the favorite but Gonzaga is a goddamn beast who is a danger to anyone. He only loses to top fighters and everyone else he demolishes. I'd like to see what happens if he can get JDS on his back.
            Maybe he has only be straight up KOd once, but he has been (T)KOd a handful of times. Whether JDS literally renders Gonzaga unconscious, I don't know, but I think he will stop him with strikes in the first, I'll put it that way.

            You say that Gonzo only loses to top fighters, and that's true. I think JDS is a top fighter and very possibly the future heavyweight champ. I've said that before and I'm saying it again.

            Originally posted by zY|
            Saunders actually has terrible striking, he was destroyed by Swick who doesn't have great striking himself. His clinch is disgustingly brutal though with his height and length. Kampmann probably has the advantage on the ground but again Saunders length makes him dangerous and he's also not out of his element on the ground. I think Kampmann should win. Saunders also has the distinction of having the absolute gayest nickname in history.
            Saunders has "terrible" striking? How do you define terrible? Saunders striking is not "terrible." Maia's striking is terrible . . . Hughes' striking is terrible . . . Saunders striking is effective.

            And what's wrong with Killa B?

            Originally posted by zY|
            Cote to me just seems like your stereotypical tough brawler who is happy to take 2 shots to land 1. Supposedly he hits hard but Kendall Grove knocks himself out shaving so I'm not really impressed by KOing him. I think Belcher is far better all around and should be the favorite.
            Cote seems like a nice guy and I always like to see nice guys win, but Belcher is cool and I have to root for him. Sucks for Cote because after a layoff it's good to come back and get a win, but I think his chances are questionable. Really, it comes down to whether or not Belcher allows himself to get into a brawl like he did with Gouveia. That would be a very poor strategy.
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            • zY|
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 8385

              #7
              Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

              Sorry I can't hear anything you're saying with JDS nuts in your mouth.
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              • SPX
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 23875

                #8
                Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

                Originally posted by zY|
                Sorry I can't hear anything you're saying with JDS nuts in your mouth.
                Did you not notice that I'm in the 1,000 Post Club? I have four stars; you only have three.

                Clearly I know more about MMA than you.
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                • Mr. IWS
                  215 Hustler
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 97672

                  #9
                  Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

                  I was at UFC 1 though...............
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                  • triathlete
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                    • Jan 2010
                    • 294

                    #10
                    Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

                    Originally posted by zY|
                    Sorry I can't hear anything you're saying with JDS nuts in your mouth.
                    Oh, snap. . .

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                    • zY|
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 8385

                      #11
                      Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

                      Anyways, until I see JDS actually defend a takedown or work well off his back against a strong grappler, I don't have any plans to appoint him king of the world.

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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        #12
                        Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

                        Originally posted by zY|
                        Anyways, until I see JDS actually defend a takedown or work well off his back against a strong grappler, I don't have any plans to appoint him king of the world.
                        If he gives all the strong grappler the Werdum treatment then it won't really matter.
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                        • zY|
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 8385

                          #13
                          Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

                          Oh good lord. There's no point in even having a discussion with you about this.
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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            #14
                            Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

                            Lol.

                            Okay, how is this:

                            Yes, I agree that JDS's grappling ability is untested and unproven. However, I am at this point giving him the benefit of the doubt since I know he trains with the Nog's. The only person at HW (in the UFC) I see beating him right now though is Brock due to his ultra-powerful wrestling . . . and Carwin might have a chance, too.
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                            • zY|
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 8385

                              #15
                              Re: Upcoming: JDS/Napao, Belcher/Cote, Kampmann/Saunders

                              I think Cain might beat him up too.

                              But that's better. I'm sure he's not terrible on the ground, but his proficiency is just what I question.
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