UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13th

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Originally Posted by LudoCain

To be fair, Goran had been gone almost 2 years from training/fighting before he fought CB. Kendall presented the same problems for Goran as he would anyone who isn't above average in the striking department with his length.

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I'm not seeing these as arguments that he should be a favorite over Krzystof. If you want to argue that the line should be close, fine. I mean, he may very well win. But if you look at their accomplishments over their last few fights then I think Sos has done more.

Gouveia kind of sucks. He was cut for a reason. Then he went and got his ass kicked in MFC. As for the Grove and CB fights, I didn't see them and I understand that they were both fairly close (Sherdog even scored the Grove fight for Reljic), but the thing is that I think Sos would have a very good shot and kicking either of their asses, too.

I think this is going to be a mostly striking war with both guys getting tagged a lot, and in the end I think Sos probably hits harder. So that's the reasoning for my bet.

I wasn't presenting an argument as to why Goran should be favored. I'm just saying take his losses to CB and Grove with a grain of salt because they are skewed by the circumstances. I do feel they should be close in the lines. Maybe -120/+105 ish.

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Its what I figured

Okami has got to be the play here. That's just Bookmakers weak opening line though. I'd expect it to move.

Wow! I love Okami at that price.

I think Okami is definitely the play. I personally think the line should be like -130/-110 in favor of Okami

Already moved to +150 for Okami.

Dropped 1.3u to win 1u on Okami. But with that said, I really do expect Vitor to fuck him up. Okami likes to test his striking now and Vitor's the wrong guy to test against.

Vitor Belfort out of UFC 122; Marquardt steps in to face Okami



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Originally Posted by Luke

Vitor Belfort out of UFC 122; Marquardt steps in to face Okami



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Whenever Vitor does come back, he is going to get smashed if he gets any top 5 competition. He hasn't made the cut to 185 since Affliction, and it will be like a 18 month lay off altogether with injuries.

He probably pulled out of the fight being scared of testing positive like Chael did.

Damn. And right after we got a line, too.

What do you guys think about this one?

Vitor probably isn't injured actually. He is probably slated to fight Silva early 2011 now lol

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Originally Posted by poopoo333

He probably pulled out of the fight being scared of testing positive like Chael did.

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I doubt Vitor gets caught again. I'm sure he's learned to cycle better. It's interesting that if he fights Silva he wouldn't be the first of Anderson's UFC opponents to have been popped for steroids....or second, or third.

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He probably pulled out of the fight being scared of testing positive like Chael did.

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I doubt Vitor gets caught again. I'm sure he's learned to cycle better. It's interesting that if he fights Silva he wouldn't be the first of Anderson's UFC opponents to have been popped for steroids....or second, or third.

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5th (well Irvin wasn't steroids)

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Originally Posted by poopoo333

Vitor probably isn't injured actually. He is probably slated to fight Silva early 2011 now lol

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Yeah I don't think anyone believes he's actually injured.

Info is already coming out that he's not.

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Interesting. Maybe we'll get an announcement soon that he'll be fighting Anderson.

What's everyone think of Okami/Marquardt? Line predictions?

I love how the UFC so effortlessly makes moves and sets shit up. They've been trying to set up the Vitor/Silva fight for what seems like years now. Sonnen busted is a setback, but it finally sets the stage for Vitor to fight Silva.

If Silva wins, the timeline is right for Chael to come right back and get his immediate rematch anyways. Let's be honest, no one is ever punished for steroids by the UFC. Tim Sylvia? Punished by an immediate title shot against Frank Peace. Sean Sherk? Punished with an immediate title shot and biggest fight of his career against BJ Penn.

At worst they can just have Chael beat up the Marquardt/Okami winner. Everyone will have forgotten about the positive test by then anyways. Win-win.

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Now Dana is telling everyone that Vitor isn't injured, and Nate isn't taking his place. Probably misinformation. I don't know why MMAWeekly would've confirmed Nate vs Okami if it wasn't true. Who knows.

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Junkie just posted an article saying that Vitor/Sonnen is now targeted for early 2011.