Strikeforce: Le vs Smith

[SPX]

Odds are up!



Definitely not taking Cung Le on that shit. In fact, with a gun to my head my money would have to go on Smith at that line.

I was hoping Gil would open as a bigger dog.

Jacare may be worth a bet at that line from what everyone is saying, but I still haven't seen the guy fight.

[Luke]

Odds are up!



Definitely not taking Cung Le on that shit. In fact, with a gun to my head my money would have to go on Smith at that line.

I was hoping Gil would open as a bigger dog.

Jacare may be worth a bet at that line from what everyone is saying, but I still haven't seen the guy fight.

I just posted the lines in another thread .We must have both got the email at the sametime

I thought the samething .Le's odds are way too high

[Luke]

I hate to say it now but I was hoping for Cung Le at under -140 to make it a bet for me

[SPX]

I hate to say it now but I was hoping for Cung Le at under -140 to make it a bet for me

I was hoping for -185 or better. That was probably going to be my limit.

At the current odds, I'm thinking of .25u on Smith.

[MMA_scientist]

I had Jacare at -240. I should made my bet. I don't know that I can take him at -285.

All of that crap looks too pricey for me. The underdogs all might have some value. I am not betting unless Jacare comes back down a lot. That is the only matchup I like.

[MMA_scientist]

Jacare is back down a little. The more I think about this fight, the more convinced I am that Lindland cannot win.

Here is a video of a one sided beat down Jacare put on Lindland in ADCC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwtQFjjws8w

Jacare took him down, passed and submitted him in about 2 minutes. This was a prime Lindland. Lindland is older, slower, and less interested now. Jacare should win this easy. I am actually considering rasing by bet.

[Luke]

I can get Jacare at -250.Looks like people are taking Lidland because they dont know who Souza is

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah the lines came back down, I got 5 units on Jacare @ -250.

[Mr. IWS]

Jacare is back down a little. The more I think about this fight, the more convinced I am that Lindland cannot win.

Here is a video of a one sided beat down Jacare put on Lindland in ADCC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwtQFjjws8w

Jacare took him down, passed and submitted him in about 2 minutes. This was a prime Lindland. Lindland is older, slower, and less interested now. Jacare should win this easy. I am actually considering rasing by bet.

This is making me want to get on Jacare, thanks for posting. I may join in here.

[MMA_scientist]

I did raise my bet, up to 5 units, but I couldn't get him at -250. I still bought @-275 though.

Anyway, Lindland has to execute a perfect gameplan and make it last for 15 minutes (because he cannot finish anyone standing). Jacare is athletic and is not afraid to throw his hands. For Lindland to win, he basically has to clinch him the whole time, but not take him down, and not get taken down, not stand at range, and not get leglocked or guardpulled or flying triangled (all things Jacare does with regularity). Plus Jacare has already shown he can take him down, in the the ADCC match. Then add in the fact that Lindland is semi-retired and has looked pretty bad in his last 2 outings (even though he beat Negao, it was far from impressive). Its ridiculous, Jacare is going to win.

[Mr. IWS]

I can get Jacare at -250, I think Im gonna be on it.

Lindland has had 2 fights since the Fedor fight in 2007, and he is 39 years old now, and as the Scientist said, he looked weak against Nacimento.

Jacare has top notch BJJ, and im not too concerned with his striking against Lindland. Mayhem is a decent striker, better than Lindland, and Jacare was holding his own with him in that department in the second fight. His loss to Mousasi was kind of suspect, because he had top control at the time he got kicked, so I cant hold that one against him too much.

Jacare via sub.

[MMA_scientist]

Where are you guys getting this @ -250?

[Mr. IWS]

Where are you guys getting this @ -250?

I make all my bets through local book

[Luke]

Where are you guys getting this @ -250?

matchbook

[Luke]

I was right about one thing .Cung Le has zero ground game .If he would have had any he would have ended this fight on several occassions . One time he was on top and Smith just held Le's hands and Le didnt know what to do so he just laid on Smith

[Mr. IWS]

Scott Smith had him right where he wanted him the whole fight. Get dropped 4 or 5 times, than comeback for the win...LOL I dont think I have ever seen a guy have all these comeback wins like that.

Scientist, thanks for posing that ADCC clip of Jacare. That really swayed me towards playing on him.