Published Write-Up: UFC 108

**SPX** · 12-28-2009, 02:03 PM

Been a while since I've done one of these. Let me know what you guys think. . .

http://www.mmaunderdogs.com/

**Mr. IWS** · 12-28-2009, 02:09 PM

Nice work as always my man.

I cant really argue with any of the plays. Im kind of suprised that Cantwell is a small do there. That should be close to a pick em, IMO. So some value there with Cantwell.

Good luck on them.

**zY|** · 12-28-2009, 02:17 PM

Good write up, and good luck.

**Luke** · 12-28-2009, 03:05 PM

Congrads man GL on the card.

your name is Soren? you dont hear that name everyday ,were you named after someone?

**SPX** · 12-28-2009, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Luke

Congrads man GL on the card.

your name is Soren? you dont hear that name everyday ,were you named after someone?

No, my name is actually the plain ol' vanilla Chris. Soren's my pen name and the name under which I wrote my only REAL article I've ever had published (a 5-page feature on martial arts films in the Aug. '07 issue of Black Belt magazine).

I took the name from Soren Kierkegaard, the Danish philosopher.

**zY|** · 12-28-2009, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Luke

Congrads man GL on the card.

your name is Soren? you dont hear that name everyday ,were you named after someone?

**Mr. IWS** · 12-28-2009, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by zY|

I had to right-click "view properties" on that one.

**zY|** · 12-28-2009, 03:20 PM

Christ watch more movies! :)

**Mr. IWS** · 12-28-2009, 03:26 PM

I got all them lord of the rings dvd's, and never watched any of them. My kid likes that shit.

**SPX** · 12-28-2009, 03:32 PM

Lord of the Rings is AWESOME!!!

I never really cared for the books, but the movies are great. It was a SAD, SAD, SAD day for me when I walked out of the theater for Return of the King and realized that that was it . . . it was over . . . no more LOTR movies to look forward to each Christmas.

**zY|** · 12-28-2009, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by SPX

Lord of the Rings is AWESOME!!!

I never really cared for the books, but the movies are great. It was a SAD, SAD, SAD day for me when I walked out of the theater for Return of the King and realized that that was it . . . it was over . . . no more LOTR movies to look forward to each Christmas.

Me too man.

Zak you're really missing out.

**MMA_scientist** · 12-28-2009, 04:04 PM

Nice write up. The fights you did not write about are the ones I am betting. I think Cole Miller is the best value on the card.

Nice breakdown though.

**SPX** · 12-28-2009, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by MMA_scientist

Nice write up. The fights you did not write about are the ones I am betting. I think Cole Miller is the best value on the card.

Nice breakdown though.

I personally set Cole's true line -150, so I'd take him at -145 or better. I'd like to bet him. Hopefully his line will get better as we get closer to the fight, but I doubt it.

**MMA_scientist** · 12-28-2009, 04:20 PM

He has gotten worse, I got him @ -150

I don't see how Dan can win the fight, consistently. Dan has a bar brawler striking style, but without too much speed or power. He has "ok" wrestling and some submission skills. Cole is a more technical and versatile striker with better mat skills. My only concern is Cole's guard centric ground game, which does not impress the judges. If Dan just gets on top and works he could take a decision. I don't think he can hurt or finish Cole though. I would take him up to like -180 or so. Such is the flawed concept of "value." Value is in the eye of the beholder.

Anyway, good luck on your picks. Once they are out there, they count. At least you can always just change you pen name and start over.

**Luke** · 12-28-2009, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by zY|

Christ watch more movies! :)

I've never seen a Lord of the Rings either ,I had no idead what that picture was

On a side note

**SPX** · 12-28-2009, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by MMA_scientist

He has gotten worse, I got him @ -150.

I'm hoping some last-minute money comes in on Dan. We'll see. If it does, we'll probably be on Cole together.

Originally Posted by MMA_scientist

I don't see how Dan can win the fight, consistently. Dan has a bar brawler striking style, but without too much speed or power. He has "ok" wrestling and some submission skills. Cole is a more technical and versatile striker with better mat skills. My only concern is Cole's guard centric ground game, which does not impress the judges. If Dan just gets on top and works he could take a decision. I don't think he can hurt or finish Cole though. I would take him up to like -180 or so. Such is the flawed concept of "value." Value is in the eye of the beholder.

You're probably right. I did specifically consider that Dan might get Cole down and just stay on top, doing just enough to get the decision. Also, Cole's takedown defense is less-than-inspiring, I think. I remember watching several fights where he just got taken down time after time. He could occasionally defend against them, but not enough to make me confident in his abilities against someone with a wrestling background. Cole should win this one--and I hope he does, because I like the guy--but he's a B-level fighter who's 2-2 in his last 4 and would be 1-3 if he hadn't gotten that last minute triangle on Gurgel.

Originally Posted by MMA_scientist

Anyway, good luck on your picks. Once they are out there, they count. At least you can always just change you pen name and start over.

Thanks, you too. We're not going head to head on anything, so hopefully it's a good night for us both. I also like Rashad in this fight, so if by some chance I am able to get him at -180 or better at some point then I'll be on him, too.

**zY|** · 12-28-2009, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Luke

Originally Posted by zY|

Christ watch more movies! :)

I've never seen a Lord of the Rings either ,I had no idead what that picture was

On a side note

Good God you guys are old!

**Luke** · 12-28-2009, 04:54 PM

Good God you guys are old!

Old? I was 20 when the first one came out lol!!

I just dont like fantasy movies is all. I have never watched a batman,lord of the rings,harry potter,sin city or any other movie like that.Its just not my thing

**MMA_scientist** · 12-28-2009, 05:17 PM

I have seen the lord of the rings movies, didn't care for them.

I am 32.

I like sci-fi stuff, but just didn't care for the flicks. I thought they were visually pretty pleasing, but I am just not into monsters, elves, and warlocks and other shit that generally gets your ass kicked in high school.

Although I do like ninjas.

**Luke** · 12-28-2009, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by MMA_scientist

I have seen the lord of the rings movies, didn't care for them.

I am 32.

I like sci-fi stuff, but just didn't care for the flicks. I thought they were visually pretty pleasing, but I am just not into monsters, elves, and warlocks and other shit that generally gets your ass kicked in high school.

Although I do like ninjas.

I liked beverly hills ninja does that count?

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