Nog VS Cain

[SPX]

Nog's down to -145 on Bodog. I know he's looked questionable lately, but his performance against Couture was a good one, in my opinion better than his performance against Heath or Sylvia. When his line first came out, he was -250 and I didn't see any value at all, but it's starting to look pretty attractive. Cain doesn't hit that hard so I don't see him knocking Nog out, so the question is really whether his wrestling will be superior to the point of being able to control the fight like he's used to doing. Nog's a crafty veteran who seems with a better sub game than anything Cain has dealt with, so I could easily see him taking this one.

[Mr. IWS]

The more I look at this one, the more I think Cain is just gonna out work him for a decision.

[The HOFF]

I like Nogueira, especially at -145. No way Velasquez can knock him out. So the way I see it, Nogueira has three rounds to pull out a submission.

[MMA_scientist]

This is so tough to call. Cain has never faced a grappler. Nog swept Randy a couple of times.

I am gonna say Nog though. No bet for me though.

[zY|]

This is so tough to call. Cain has never faced a grappler. Nog swept Randy a couple of times.

I am gonna say Nog though. No bet for me though.

Agreed. This is where I'm at as well. Too many intangibles.

[Luke]

I like Nogueira, especially at -145. No way Velasquez can knock him out. So the way I see it, Nogueira has three rounds to pull out a submission.

Kind of the same thinking I have

[SPX]

Kind of the same thinking I have

Luke, Alf is awesome, and I support that avatar, but aren't you aware that you have to have a ninja AV now in order to participate in this forum?

[Luke]

Kind of the same thinking I have

Luke, Alf is awesome, and I support that avatar, but aren't you aware that you have to have a ninja AV now in order to participate in this forum?

I never watched ninjas in the 80s and since everyone was changing their avatars to the 80s I put Alf up because thats what I was watching back then.

I'll see if I cant find Alf as a ninja lol


Maybe someone that knows photoshop can photoshop me an Alf ninja

[Mr. IWS]

Skills...............I has them........

[zY|]

He said ninja, not Kimbo.

[Luke]

Skills...............I has them........

LMAO

[Luke]

He said ninja, not Kimbo.

It does look like Kimbo

[Mr. IWS]

Dam,that does look like Kimbo.

I am horrible at that shit.

[Luke]

Here we go again

[SPX]

Here we go again

I hijacked my own thread!

How much talent does THAT shit take?!

[Mr. IWS]

Here we go again

I hijacked my own thread!

How much talent does THAT shit take?!

Skills, SPX has them.

[Mr. IWS]

Anyway, lets get back to this...........

Anyone worried about Nog with all these staph infections (see zombie Nog), possibly affecting him in this one. Cain sets one hell of a pace. I know he wont finish Nog, but I dont think him out working him, and staying out of subs is out of the question.

[SPX]

I think it could go either way, but the "I like Nog at -145" part of me says that this is a child fighting a man. Cain's had a total of 7 MMA fights with his best wins coming over groundgame-clueless Kongo and journeyman Rothwell.

Could this be Cain's coming out party? Sure. But this fight could also put him in his place, where he is forced to learn that he is not yet ready to fight legends in this sport.

[Mr. IWS]

Cain's had a total of 7 MMA fights with his best wins coming over groundgame-clueless Kongo and journeyman Rothwell.

The only reason I aint betting him.

[zY|]

He'll have to be much more conservative with his ground and pound. He doesn't want to give Nog the kind of space he was giving Rothwell.

I think this fight really comes down to can Cain stay out of submissions. Nog will likely beat him up standing, and Cain will be forced to go for the takedown, which he will definitely get.