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    Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    This line might have moved before you fucks get here, but:



    I'm gonna hold off, let the money come in on Shogun and then hop on Lyoto, hopefully once he gets down around -130.
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    I don't like the look of this fight the second time around for Machida. Shoguns gameplan put him in a place he didn't know how to handle. He won a RAZOR thin decision and could barely walk by the end of it. The only reason Shogun didn't push things more is because through the whole fight his corner kept telling him he was winning.
    Second time around who knows if Machida has somehow managed to adapt the style he's used his entire career into something else to counteract Shogun's uncharacteristic gameplan for the first fight. If anything I'd say put your money(just not alot of it) on Shogun, but this one has so many unknown variables I'm not going near it.
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Most important, highest level, evenly matched fight of the year. Will be decided by intangibles. I'm staying away unless either guy becomes a significant underdog.
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    I'd take Machida. He is just so much faster than shogun imo .I think Machida took him lightly the first time . I expect him to win again
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    I'd take Machida. He is just so much faster than shogun imo .I think Machida took him lightly the first time . I expect him to win again
    I don't think he's any faster than Shogun.
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Quote Originally Posted by zY|
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    I'd take Machida. He is just so much faster than shogun imo .I think Machida took him lightly the first time . I expect him to win again
    I don't think he's any faster than Shogun.

    I do .But thats just my opinion
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    I do .But thats just my opinion
    Well ultimately it's a matter of physics. He's either faster or he's not.
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    I'm surprised to see that Lyoto is now -190 on Bookmaker. Opposite direction than I expected the line to move.
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Quote Originally Posted by zY|
    Most important, highest level, evenly matched fight of the year. Will be decided by intangibles.
    agreed.

    I will sit back an enjoy this one.
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPX
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    I do .But thats just my opinion
    Well ultimately it's a matter of physics. He's either faster or he's not.


    You're wrong! It's Luke's opinion vs mine!
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Speed is prob even or close to slight edge to one or the other. Machida is way more elusive so he might use his speed better

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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    KOS vs Daley also on this card.Anyone got a line prediction for this fight?
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    KOS vs Daley also on this card.Anyone got a line prediction for this fight?
    Kos -170
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Quote Originally Posted by zY|
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    KOS vs Daley also on this card.Anyone got a line prediction for this fight?
    Kos -170

    I think you misread .Those are Machidas odds . What do you think KOS will be?
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Kos opened at -275. He is now at -340

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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333
    Kos opened at -275. He is now at -340

    good job man just saw it thanks
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Kimbo and KOS lines up


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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Just dropped .75u on Daley at +260.

    Daley has a MUCH better chance that that line indicates, in my opinion. If he comes out like he did against Rumble, then Kos is going to want to at least test his stiking against Daley's initially, and that will give Daley the chance he needs to put Kos to sleep. Also, as I've said before, I think Daley's TD defense is underrated, so even if Kos goes for the takedown he might have a harder time getting it than he imagines.
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    Quote Originally Posted by zY|
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    KOS vs Daley also on this card.Anyone got a line prediction for this fight?
    Kos -170

    I think you misread .Those are Machidas odds . What do you think KOS will be?
    No that was my guess.

    Wow at those odds!! I think he wins but I'm with SPX, no way should he be that huge of a favorite.
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    Re: Lyoto -170 against Shogun?

    Also Meathead is probably going to knock Kimbo out. I don't really see any advantage Kimbo has. Mitrione is way bigger with more power and a better chin. Both are shit on the ground.
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