Rate the UFC's top 5 HW

[Svino]

My own list:

1.Lesnar
2.Carwin
3.Cain
4.Mir
5.Dos Santos

Dos Santos still needs to prove his ground game / takedown defense. I could be persuaded to switch Carwin and Cain, but I think that while Carwin's wrestling may be weaker, it's "good enough" for almost all opponents, and he has more power in his hands. So far, I'm liking the odds for Carwin against Mir, but I'm concerned that "UberMir" may be different enough from his earlier self that prediction is tough. Any other opinions on that fight?

[zY|]

I think Mir should win pretty handily via being far more skilled, experienced, versatile, and strategic.

That said, if Carwin hits him he might melt into the canvas.

[Luke]

I think Mir should win pretty handily via being far more skilled, experienced, versatile, and strategic.

That said, if Carwin hits him he might melt into the canvas.

Yeah I thought NOG would win for those exact reasons too

[zY|]

Nog fought Carwin?

I guess I missed it. Weird.

[Luke]

Nog fought Carwin?

I guess I missed it. Weird.

no bonehead lol I thought NOG would beat Cain for the exact same reasons

[zY|]

Nog fought Carwin?

I guess I missed it. Weird.

no bonehead lol I thought NOG would beat Cain for the exact same reasons

Well I picked Cain to beat Nog so where does that leave us?

What are you saying exactly?

[Luke]

Just forget it ,go play scrabble

[zY|]

LOL

Dont' take that oaken twang with me, cholo.

[Svino]

I think Carwin has a chance of winning that fight in the standup with a meaty punch (like his victory over Gonzaga, or Bader v. Jardine). Also, I could see him beating Mir on the ground (like Lesnar v. Mir 2 or Vera v. Mir). And I could see him getting the decision by losing the standup only slightly, then stealing rounds with a couple takedowns (Evans v. Sylva).

I guess for me it centers on the fact that that Carwin is a proven wrestler and Mir has weak takedown D, so if even one of these possibilities can work, Carwin potentially has the tools to get it there.

There are definitely some similarities with Cain vs. Nog. I backed Nog, largely because I thought his positional jiu-jitsu was being underrated. Nog has great sweeps and I couldn't see Cain controlling him on the ground for very long. Of course, we didn't really get to find out and I felt like an idiot for misevaluating the striking balance.

[MMA_scientist]

There are definitely some similarities with Cain vs. Nog. I backed Nog, largely because I thought his positional jiu-jitsu was being underrated. Nog has great sweeps and I couldn't see Cain controlling him on the ground for very long. Of course, we didn't really get to find out and I felt like an idiot for misevaluating the striking balance.

I actually had Cain winning the fight, but I don't think anyone could have guessed that Cain would have such a striking advantage. His striking looked improved... there is no way to account for that. Sometimes guys just come out with a new skill and it throws your whole breakdown off.

I would still like to see what would happen on the ground between Nog and Cain.