UFC 115 discussion/odds

[Ludo]

Franklin is still better than he gets credit for. His only losses in his last 5 fights have come by razor thin decision to Dan Henderson(who looks like he hits harder than Chuck at this point), and Vitor Belfort who is still a force to be reckoned with standing. Alot of the stigma around Franklin at this point I think is all the catchweight stuff which isn't really his fault. Though he doesn't really have a "place" in either the 185 or 205lb division as of right now, but he should have no problem staying on the outside with Chuck. His pace is better than Chucks and his body kicks are going to be a factor I think.

[Luke]

just took Liddell +140 one unit, may add more later if the line keeps going higher.


1.0 to win 1.4

[SPX]

I've said I'll grab Liddell if he hits +150.

I may take him at less than that after I do some research. My main concern is him letting Franklin outpoint him for 3 rounds.

[Luke]

Just a FYI

Someone has the Carlos Condit - Rory MacDonald line up at matchbook right now

Condit -260

Macdonald +170


Not sure how accurate this maybe but it might give you an idea of what the line will be when it comes out

[ManBoobKilla]

where do you think the dunham griffin lines will be?? +200 dunham?? Mark my words, Dunham will win this fight, even if its only by a SD. I am also intersted in the Louisseu vs Miranda fight. Hoping they undervalue miranda because of his last fight. I will be all over miranda if he is under -200

[SPX]

Mark my words, Dunham will win this fight, even if its only by a SD.

We still have a sig bet.

Remember that, son.

[ManBoobKilla]

Mark my words, Dunham will win this fight, even if its only by a SD.

We still have a sig bet.

Remember that, son.

Thats right we do!! You getting a little nervous??? Dunham is the next thing, watch out griffin

[SPX]

Thats right we do!! You getting a little nervous??? Dunham is the next thing, watch out griffin

You're going to have a 30-day sig that says:

"Matt Serra is the very definition of a superior MMA fighter. He is an absolute specimen and GSP is ducking him for the rubber match. Can't blame GSP, though. It's never fun to lose."

[MMA_scientist]

Pretty sure my only bet is going to be Paulo Thiago...


unless the lines are just insane. I now think CC is going to win.

[ManBoobKilla]

Thats right we do!! You getting a little nervous??? Dunham is the next thing, watch out griffin

You're going to have a 30-day sig that says:

"Matt Serra is the very definition of a superior MMA fighter. He is an absolute specimen and GSP is ducking him for the rubber match. Can't blame GSP, though. It's never fun to lose."

HAHA!!! I havent thought of one for you yet. Maybe something with strange brew in it or how I am your master

[SPX]

HAHA!!! I havent thought of one for you yet. Maybe something with strange brew in it or how I am your master

Think hard. Because IF I lose--and that's a big if, because I don't plan on losing--then you might as well make it worth it.

[poopoo333]

It would be nice if we could get more then 3 fucking lines for 115!

[Thewiseman]

Pretty sure my only bet is going to be Paulo Thiago...


unless the lines are just insane. I now think CC is going to win.

Why do you think CC is going to win?

[MMA_scientist]

Pretty sure my only bet is going to be Paulo Thiago...


unless the lines are just insane. I now think CC is going to win.

Why do you think CC is going to win?

Saw a SD thread on Barry... which sparked me to go out an research him and CC a little.

Barry really doesn't have an y good kickboxing wins... While CC has some very credible wins. Barry is 5'11, Cro Cop has never been outstruck by a shorter man. JDS and Kongo outstruck him, but they are both taller and have reach advantages. And they are both physically stronger and bigger than CC.

Barry has 6 fights, and I just don't think he is going to have enough for crocop. Everyone is talking about his demise, but his only bad loss is Kongo, and that is not horrible. There is no shame in being beaten by Gonzaga or JDS who are both top 10 HWs.

I just think Barry is a little overhyped, and CC's demise is a little exaggerated. Also, Mirko might surprise us and decide to grapple a little.

[poopoo333]

I am 50/50 on CC/Barry.

I saw the same thread on SD that Scientist is talking about, and they are some good points. Apparently CC is all healed up from his injuries now as well. I watched JDS/CC yesterday, and JDS is a good boxer and he used his speed and size and walked CC down to box him against the cage.... CC wasn't doing terrible in that fight, he landed straight lefts at will and actually busted JDS up a little. JDS has never been out of the 1st round...except against CC. I see Barry winning if he can move in and out and land some leg kicks, and use his hand speed and light CC up against the fence after closing the distance. I think if CC gets in trouble he will clinch up and get the takedown. I think CC has value for sure.

[poopoo333]

Oh, I forgot to mention, I think CC/Barry is going to go to a decision.

[Thewiseman]

Oh, I forgot to mention, I think CC/Barry is going to go to a decision.

Possible for sure, but unlikely. I think Barry finishes. The fight going the distance is +450 on dimes.

[MMA_scientist]

Oh, I forgot to mention, I think CC/Barry is going to go to a decision.

Possible for sure, but unlikely. I think Barry finishes. The fight going the distance is +450 on dimes.

Really. That is solid. I don't do props, but I may do that one. I think there is better than 50% this goes to the cards.

[Luke]

Oh, I forgot to mention, I think CC/Barry is going to go to a decision.

Possible for sure, but unlikely. I think Barry finishes. The fight going the distance is +450 on dimes.

I think it goes to a decision too unless CC stops Barry but I suck at props

[Luke]

Oh, I forgot to mention, I think CC/Barry is going to go to a decision.

Possible for sure, but unlikely. I think Barry finishes. The fight going the distance is +450 on dimes.

I think it goes to a decision too unless CC stops Barry but I suck at props