Strikceforce CBS April 17th fights /discussion

[SPX]

(In the movie version, this would be where you put the montage.)

Hell yeah!

[Mr. IWS]

Ive heard two reports on Shields. 1) his contract is up 2) Coker has a 1 fight option.

I would love to see Shields and Jacarae.

[SPX]

Ive heard two reports on Shields. 1) his contract is up 2) Coker has a 1 fight option.

I would love to see Shields and Jacarae.

And NEWWWWWWW Strikeforce middlweight champion of the worlddddd!!!!!

[zY|]

Ive heard two reports on Shields. 1) his contract is up 2) Coker has a 1 fight option.

I would love to see Shields and Jacarae.

And NEWWWWWWW Strikeforce middlweight champion of the worlddddd!!!!!

LOL exactly. Jacare will rape Shields' whole family. A bigger, stronger, more athletic Demien Maia with better striking.

Also, awesome post Svino.

[Thewiseman]

Im not sure why everyone is so suprised about Mousasi. He never had fought a wrestler even remotely close to being as good as King Mo. Now we know.

[Luke]

Im not sure why everyone is so suprised about Mousasi. He never had fought a wrestler even remotely close to being as good as King Mo. Now we know.

Its called a hype train wiseman ,never get on one

[SPX]

Its called a hype train wiseman ,never get on one

A hype train backed by much experience and many good wins.

[zY|]

Im not sure why everyone is so suprised about Mousasi. He never had fought a wrestler even remotely close to being as good as King Mo. Now we know.

I realize hindsight is fun and all, but he best fighter King Mo had fought was Mike Whitehead. Suffice it to say doubts were warranted.

[Johnny Unreliable]

Up a few units. Only ended up betting on Melendez. Pussied out of the hendo fight due to the line (though that first round had me screaming at the TV wishing I bet on it).

And Aoki got tooled like I said baby. Complete domination. /gloats

[Luke]

Its called a hype train wiseman ,never get on one

A hype train backed by much experience and many good wins.

You mean like Dan Henderson? I didnt say I didnt fall for hype also

[SPX]

You mean like Dan Henderson? I didnt say I didnt fall for hype also

When I think Hype Train I usually think of guys who appear to have a lot of potential, but haven't really proven themselves against top competition. Guys like Hendo and Mousasi have already been a lot of top guys, thus legitimizing hype into something more tangible.

[Luke]

You mean like Dan Henderson? I didnt say I didnt fall for hype also

When I think Hype Train I usually think of guys who appear to have a lot of potential, but haven't really proven themselves against top competition. Guys like Hendo and Mousasi have already been a lot of top guys, thus legitimizing hype into something more tangible.

I think of hype as a fighter thats been talked up so much people think he's alot better fighter than he really is .People had Mousasi a top 3 fighter at 205 and Hendo the #2 185 pounder ,neither were even close to be true

[Svino]

See, I don't mind hype trains. Getting on the right one can be profitable. All the protesting - "...but they haven't beaten anyone *real* yet." has resulted in the betting lines on guys like Cain, Carwin, Jones, and even Lesnar being way too low. To refer upwards to this thread - look at Jacare. Because of his talent, many of us here, me included, think he would beat Shields. But his record is nowhere near as impressive, and I think we might be able to get a good line on him because of it.

[zY|]

See, I don't mind hype trains. Getting on the right one can be profitable. All the protesting - "...but they haven't beaten anyone *real* yet." has resulted in the betting lines on guys like Cain, Carwin, Jones, and even Lesnar being way too low. To refer upwards to this thread - look at Jacare. Because of his talent, many of us here, me included, think he would beat Shields. But his record is nowhere near as impressive, and I think we might be able to get a good line on him because of it.

I don't think Jacare is that great to be honest, he has a pretty terrible chin. I just feel he presents a really awful style matchup for Shields.

I'm all over the Cain hype train though. I think he's the best HW in the UFC.

[SPX]

See, I don't mind hype trains. Getting on the right one can be profitable. All the protesting - "...but they haven't beaten anyone *real* yet." has resulted in the betting lines on guys like Cain, Carwin, Jones, and even Lesnar being way too low..

I agree to an extent, but should point out the "but they haven't fought anyone yet" argument is often legitimate. I think we saw it with Rumble VS Kos, for instance, and plenty of other fights. With that said, sure, plenty of guys really do break out. I think the key is being able to determine which guys are going to live up to the hype and which ones aren't, but that's no easy task.

To refer upwards to this thread - look at Jacare. Because of his talent, many of us here, me included, think he would beat Shields. But his record is nowhere near as impressive, and I think we might be able to get a good line on him because of it.

I dunno. I remember Jacare was pretty heavily favored against Lindland, so I'm not sure what he would be against Shields. How sweet would it be to actually get him as an underdog? Unlikely, but that would be excellent.

[Svino]

I think the key is being able to determine which guys are going to live up to the hype and which ones aren't, but that's no easy task.

Sure, no disagreement there.

I dunno. I remember Jacare was pretty heavily favored against Lindland, so I'm not sure what he would be against Shields. How sweet would it be to actually get him as an underdog? Unlikely, but that would be excellent.

I think he was -270 or so against Lindland, but the results of that fight showed it should have been even steeper.

[Thewiseman]

You mean like Dan Henderson? I didnt say I didnt fall for hype also

When I think Hype Train I usually think of guys who appear to have a lot of potential, but haven't really proven themselves against top competition. Guys like Hendo and Mousasi have already been a lot of top guys, thus legitimizing hype into something more tangible.

But as far as I know Mousasi had never fought a good wrestler, and that can be a different kind of fight.