Strikeforce Los Angeles June 16th Card

[SPX]

It seems like some niggaz would know when to just give up and move on to something else.

But I have to admire their heart. . .

[AC88]

No one will ever beat boxer Peter Buckley though:

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...3372&cat=boxer



32-256 LOL

Is that the worst record on boxrec? Wow.

[sideloaded]

Zaromskis was the surest thing I thought since Anderson Silva over Maia. Of course I was wrong. There goes whats left of my bank roll.

[AC88]

Thank God Zaromskis was a three-to-one favorite. Otherwise I would have placed good money on him. Funny how these things work out in the end.

[MMA_scientist]

I said:

I came really close to going with Babalu. I think Babalu's size is going to be a factor. I re-watched Shields/Lawler. Lawler was able to escape the takedown, but his striking was impotent because he was so worried about it. With Babalu having fought at HW in the past, and Lawler being as low as WW, I really think the 195 catchweight favors Sobral.

I think there will be a lot of clinching. Lawler's striking is not as great as I remembered either. I like Sobral now. But I still feel that Lawler will have an advantage the longer the fight goes.


So, basically, you are going to lose because I agree with you.

Luke said:

I've been watching their fights all week and just havent been impressed with Lawler's striking either .I'm not too worried about Sobral's conditioning ,I think he'll be fine

So basically, nice call Luke. I of course, didn't bet it as is the pattern. My new thing is that I call every fight correctly EXCEPT the ones I bet. I called Zaromskis wrong too though, but never even considered betting it.



Babalu means "little bear" in Portugese for whoever asked.

[Thewiseman]

-1.4u

[Luke]

Renato "Babalu" Sobral: $100,000
def. Robbie Lawler: $85,000

Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos: $10,000
def. Marius Zaramoskis: $5,000

Tim Kennedy: $30,000
def. Trevor Prangley: $30,000

K.J. Noons: $25,000
def. Conor Heun: $4,000

Jeremy Umphries: $1,500
def. R.J. Clifford: $2000

Hugo Sandoval: $1,500
def. Marcus Kowal: $1,000

[SPX]

Damn, so they're paying peeps $1000 to fight now? That's shitty, even for Strikeforce.

[Luke]

Damn, so they're paying peeps $1000 to fight now? That's shitty, even for Strikeforce.

How much you think the guys on the prelims got for WEC last sunday?I wouldnt guess much more than 1k each but I could be wrong

How about Court McGee: $8,000 and Kris McCray: $8,000 for a main event ?Thats what I call shitty

Sobral got 100k and Robbie got 85k for being the main event on strikeforce

[SPX]

How much you think the guys on the prelims got for WEC last sunday?I wouldnt guess much more than 1k each but I could be wrong

I think even the lowliest WEC undercard fighters get $3K or so.

How about Court McGee: $8,000 and Kris McCray: $8,000 for a main event ? Thats what I call shitty

It's shitty, but that's TUF money for you. You can't really hold that to the same standard of regular events.

Sobral got 100k and Robbie got 85k for being the main event on strikeforce

It's not great, but you can bet it's a lot more than Varner and Shalorus got for headlining their card.

[Luke]

I agree 1k is a joke to pay someone but how much does a prelim fighter deserve ? The stadiums are usually a third full when they fight and no one really knows who they are.

I mean honestly what do you think the min. should be?

[MMA_scientist]

Bellator is paying 1500 to show and another 1800 to win for their no names on the undercard.

I actually think that is pretty generous. Some of these guys suck and should be thankful for $1000.

[SPX]

I really think $5K, personally. I mean, these guys are potentially tomorrow's superstars. Besides, we all know that there's a lot more to fighting than just the fight. I doubt most of the undercard fighters are doing full camps, but for those that are, that shit costs money. And for those that are not, there's still standard gym fees, increased food costs for those following a proper diet to get ready for a fight, etc.

Plus, after taxes these guys are clearing like $750. Fuck all that.

[Luke]

I really think $5K, personally. I mean, these guys are potentially tomorrow's superstars. Besides, we all know that there's a lot more to fighting than just the fight. I doubt most of the undercard fighters are doing full camps, but for those that are, that shit costs money. And for those that are not, there's still standard gym fees, increased food costs for those following a proper diet to get ready for a fight, etc.

Plus, after taxes these guys are clearing like $750. Fuck all that.

after training and travel they're in the whole I'm sure