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    Boxing play 4/10

    Taking Evander Holyfield over Frans Botha @ -230 to win 2 units


    4.6 units to win 2


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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    How can you consistently call a winner here? They are both over the hill... either one of them could have an arthritic fit or sudden brain aneurysm.

    Seriously, can Holyfield even get cleared to fight anymore?
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    He's the big green machine or some shit now. He's recycling, and we know recycling makes things better!
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Holyfield, for as old as he is, hasnt looked that bad all things considered in his last few fights.
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    FWIW, i actually thought he beat Valuev in his last fight.
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    So does everyone else agree with this play? I am committed to learning boxing, but I find it sort of boring without the bets involved. So I am going to ride with Luke for a while until I can bear to watch it enough to learn the fighters...
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Quote Originally Posted by IWS Zak
    FWIW, i actually thought he beat Valuev in his last fight.

    He did beat Valuev but in Germany its well known that any remotely close round goes to the hometown guy
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    Quote Originally Posted by IWS Zak
    FWIW, i actually thought he beat Valuev in his last fight.

    He did beat Valuev but in Germany its well known that any remotely close round goes to the hometown guy

    Im pretty sure we talked about that back when that fight went down. Ashame, Im pretty sure that was for a belt too.
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
    How can you consistently call a winner here? They are both over the hill... either one of them could have an arthritic fit or sudden brain aneurysm.

    Seriously, can Holyfield even get cleared to fight anymore?

    The sameway Couture and Coleman get cleared I guess.

    I personally think a 57 year old Holyfield could beat Botha.Botha will throw slow wild power shotsand Holyfield will stick and move for 12 rounds.

    Botha is out of shape and has only fought 4 times in the last 8 years. Theres still money to be made with Holyfield .I think this is a paycheck fight for Botha
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    MMA scientist if you want a boxing bet that wont lose to get you started watching boxing take Mayweather
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Mayweather by decision is much better value in my opinion. I don't think PBF winning is a lock though and can't lay
    - 350 or -400. He hasn't looked that great. JMM was just way undersized.

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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Luke, is this fight going to be televised?
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Quote Originally Posted by southbaysurf
    Mayweather by decision is much better value in my opinion. I don't think PBF winning is a lock though and can't lay
    - 350 or -400. He hasn't looked that great. JMM was just way undersized.

    I wouldnt do that.Mayweather by decision is -173 I laid -300 on him to win either way.If Maywather by decision was something like +130 this might be a better bet but not -173

    Mosley has about as much chance of winning as Clottey did against Manny even though this will be closer on the cards. Mosley has 5 loses and 4 of them were to two counter punchers.Now if a prime Mosley cant beat Wright and Forrest hows a almost 39 year old Mosley going to beat Mayweather ,a faster,more accurate puncher than Forrest or Wright? I just think laying -173 on something having to be a decision win is worse idea than laying -300 on it going either way. This could end up like Manny-Cotto. It probably wont but I dont want to be praying no KO happens in rounds 10-12 so I dont lose my bet you know what I mean? I just believe the difference between -173 and -300 is enought to worry bout

    The reason JMM lost wasnt just because he was undersized it was because both him and Mayweather are both counter punchers and Mayweather is the faster,more accurate counter puncher.He beat JMM at he own game and was better at it

    Also welcome to the forum man ,it'll be nice to have someone else to talk boxing with
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Quote Originally Posted by IWS Zak
    Luke, is this fight going to be televised?

    yeah PPV lol
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Fuck Holyfield is still fighting?

    I remember gathering around at my Uncle's house to watch him fight Mike Tyson and Riddick Bowe like 20 years ago.
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    LOL fun fact.

    Frans Botha has an MMA fight on his record.

    He was Akiyama's debut opponent in K1, and was promptly armbarred.

    I may follow on this play.
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Quote Originally Posted by zY|
    Fuck Holyfield is still fighting?

    I remember gathering around at my Uncle's house to watch him fight Mike Tyson and Riddick Bowe like 20 years ago.

    First fight I seen him in was against George Foreman in 1991
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Quote Originally Posted by zY|
    LOL fun fact.

    Frans Botha has an MMA fight on his record.

    He was Akiyama's debut opponent in K1, and was promptly armbarred.

    I may follow on this play.

    Both also retired from boxing from 2002-2007 to kick box.He went 4-11 over those 5 years and returned to boxing
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    Quote Originally Posted by zY|
    LOL fun fact.

    Frans Botha has an MMA fight on his record.

    He was Akiyama's debut opponent in K1, and was promptly armbarred.

    I may follow on this play.

    Both also retired from boxing from 2002-2007 to kick box.He went 4-11 over those 5 years and returned to boxing
    LOL yeah I saw that.

    Seems like sound career choices.
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    Re: Boxing play 4/10

    I was going to follow on this Luke, but there is no line on BM for it. What is the line?
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