UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

[Luke]

Joe Lauzon, Nate Diaz and Marcus Davis earned $60,000 fight-night bonuses for their performances at Saturday's UFC 118 event.

Lauzon picked up the "Submission of the Night" bonus, and Diaz and Davis earned "Fight of the Night" honors. The usual "Knockout of the Night" bonus wasn't awarded since the the event featured no KO victories.

Sad Davi -Diaz was fight of the night. Just shows how bad the card was because personally I thought Diaz-Davis was a one sided fight that wasnt that great

[poopoo333]

Thats a big part about betting not dumping big when you are behind

Worked for me tonight, LOL. But it is definitely something I should not do anymore. (I chase often, but never like tonight by laying 12u on one fight).



I am going to keep making match ups that I think will happen with some of tonight's fighters....

Couture vs Franklin
Diaz vs winner of Lytle/Serra
Florian vs loser of Guillard/Stephens

[Luke]

According to CompuStrike, Edgar landed 155 strikes to Penn's 53

....

[Svino]

+ $760 or 7.6 Units

Good job, man!

[zY|]

From my itouch at Buffalo Wild Wings, I added 0.5u on Maia by sub @+145 and 12u on Couture @-600 after I was doing horribly. The Couture bet helped me not lose AS much.

-2.07u

First losing night in awhile... the 0.25u prop bet on Davis/Diaz FOTN was a good one, I would have been down another unit if not for that bet.


SPX, sorry man. You'll bounce back.

Which SB did you bet from your phone?

I mainly use sportsbook and their site is so awful it doesn't load right at all on a mobile.

[SPX]

I mainly use sportsbook and their site is so awful it doesn't load right at all on a mobile.

Unless they did away with it since I last tried it, you can go to wap.sportsbook.com and it will take you to a text-based site you can use.

[SPX]

Are or arent ?

You like Edgar over Maynard?

Yeah. Not sure why, but I'm still just not sold on Maynard. His win over Kenflo was impressive, but what's he going to do when he faces another wrestler like Edgar? I know Maynard beat him the first time around, but I think Edgar has improved since then.

On the feet, Edgar wins for sure, I'd say. The only question is whether or not Edgar's going to let Maynard's size dictate the fight again.

[SPX]

Posted on Sherdog, re: boxing vs MMA:

I did some searching to see how various boxing forums reacted to the James Toney/Randy Couture fight. The well written posts tended to show a more balanced view, while those with poor spelling and grammar tended to be from a heavy anti-MMA & anti-UFC perspective. Many posters seemed intelligent and reasonable, while others came off sounding insecure and uneducated. My post comes after staying up to watch UFC 118, so please give me a pass when it comes to my own spelling and grammar.

Most feel that James Toney doesn't legitimately represent boxing, and don't like that he put boxing in a position to look bad.

Some posters suggest that Couture didn't actually "fight" at all and was a coward because he didn't exchange standing punches with Toney. They suggest that Couture should fight under boxing rules otherwise he's a coward. Some think that all mixed martial artists are 'homosexual' because of the grappling element, that they should 'man up' and fight in a boxing ring, and that MMA is not a real sport.

Others countered this by pointing out that under MMA rules it would be silly for Couture to fight to Toney's strengths. Some argued that since Couture didn't call out boxing and had already admitted he has no business in a boxing ring, then it would be pointless for him to try his hand at boxing. It was pointed out that it was Toney who had entered another sport disrespectfully and got owned for it. They say that Couture fighting Toney under boxing rules is akin to James Toney competing with Randy Couture in a Greco wrestling match. Some suggested that someone in a 'real fight' would benefit more from MMA than pure boxing, because of the vulnerability to being taken down.

Some criticisms were made of the UFC: that Toney was presented as "one of the best boxers of all time" (they disagreed) and as a legitimate HW boxer because of his two titles - and believed that this would make MMA fans think that a top HW boxer was beaten. Most didn't like that it was presented as 'Boxing vs MMA' because it proved nothing other than was already known about a boxer's chances in MMA (puncher's chance and nothing more without diversifying their skillset). Many thought the chants of "UFC... UFC..." were in bad taste. It was suggested that the whole "Toney chased me all over the country, calling me names" wasn't the real reason for the bout - that the UFC knew that James Toney wouldn't get a one-punch KO like Ray Mercer did on Sylvia, and just wanted to embarrass the world of boxing for business reasons.

It was suggested that a well known mixed martial artist wouldn't be able to get a high profile boxing fight in the same way that a well known boxer was able to get a high profile MMA fight. Some commented on how poorly MMA pays it's fighters, and that the large sum that Toney was paid for his quick loss was nothing compared to what boxing pays. Comparisons were made between how few fights a mixed martial artist needs before becoming the top dog (such as Brock Lesnar), compared to how many fights a top boxer has to have before they were given title shots. No one pointed out how often boxers fight compared to mixed martial artists.

All in all, I think the boxing fans are taking it well and had an interesting perspective on the match - as long as you ignore the obvious idiots.

[poopoo333]

Which SB did you bet from your phone?

I mainly use sportsbook and their site is so awful it doesn't load right at all on a mobile.

5 dimes. Go to 5dimes.tv and it's the mobile version.

[edman5555]

I lost big tonight. I'm still ahead from ufc 115 but i lost about 33% of what I won there. Big loss tonight. Hard card to call and I chased. I also added a fight I was sure about, etc, etc etc. I made a bunch of amateur mistakes tonight and had some bad luck. Salter? Come on, I saw those guillotines coming.

[Mr. IWS]

Sorry SPX.

It's the worst loss I've ever had.

I went 0-7 tonight. I didn't even know that was possible.

I'm in a really bad emotional place right now.

Dam man, sorry bro.

[Mr. IWS]

LOL Zak you weren't on him again, were you?

Yup.

Was on Randy and Penn. Lost 180 bucks.

[Mr. IWS]

BTW

Frankie Edgar is really really fucking good.

I agree.

I'm not getting why people are picking him over Maynard.

Not that I know anything.

I dont even care about 155 anymore.

[SPX]

Dam man, sorry bro.

That card was cursed for me from the beginning apparently.

I really don't know how I could call 7 straight fights incorrectly. I probably bet a lot of stuff I otherwise would not have bet because I've been doing well lately. Haven't been this far down since the Rogers/Overeem event.

Going into the BJ fight, I just knew that I was destined to lose. I had resigned myself to my fate.

EDIT: Did the math wrong. It actually wasn't that far back when I was right where I'm at now. I was about the same number of units ahead after the UFC on Versus 2 event, and went on a pretty good streak right after that where I picked up 8 units or so. Oh well.

[poopoo333]

SPX, what were your bets last night? I saw you said 0-7, I only remember Penn, Ruediger, Ospicszack, and Davis.

[SPX]

SPX, what were your bets last night? I saw you said 0-7, I only remember Penn, Ruediger, Ospicszack, and Davis.

Also Florian (who I doubled up on right before the fight), Salter, and a prop on Randy to win via TKO.

[poopoo333]

Ah, I forgot about Florian.


I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE HEDGED OUT!!

[SPX]

Ah, I forgot about Florian.


I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE HEDGED OUT!!

Apparently so. I think seeing Florian do fairly well against BJ, then shut down Guida's wrestling, then dismantle Gomi was enough to make me believe that Kenny had a fairly big advantage. I thought if Maynard could get the takedown that he couldn't keep it, and that Kenny would just pick him apart on the feet.

[SPX]

This legitimately makes Edgar deserving of the #1 spot in the world and that blows my mind.

He's now 2-0 against Penn. I'd like to see him fight:

Maynard (but good God don't let Maynard win)
Dunham
G-Sot
Melendez
Aoki

[edman5555]

I'd like to see more of Nate Diaz at 170