Strikeforce: Fedor VS Werdum

[SPX]

L O fucking L

[MMA_scientist]

1u on Werdum. Fedor's reign ends here.

[SPX]

At those odds, a Werdum play isn't the worst idea in the world, but I don't see a way he can win except for some ultra fluke shit.

[MMA_scientist]

At those odds, a Werdum play isn't the worst idea in the world, but I don't see a way he can win except for some ultra fluke shit.

Well he is the best grappler Fedor will have ever faced. He could win a top control special. Arona beat Fedor that way, and he not as big a man as Werdum.

[SPX]

Well he is the best grappler Fedor will have ever faced. He could win a top control special. Arona beat Fedor that way, and he not as big a man as Werdum.

You always go back to Arona. That shit was FOREVER ago. So far back at this point as to be virtually irrelevant.

Werdum sucks. I don't know why you have so much faith in him. He got straight cancelled by JDS and then went on to win a very lackluster decision against Bigfoot. Oh, and he looked like shit against AA since you like to go back to old fights.

I've never seen ANYTHING to impress me out of Werdum. Maybe the Vera fight. Sort of. I didn't expect to see Vera get outwrestled like he did, but whatever, Vera is no Fedor.

Fedor's reign may one day end, but not because of fucking Febricio Werdum.

[Svino]

Hate to admit it, but I agree that the value is on Werdum here. Fedor should win, but I think this line is reflecting Werdum being underrated. And let's not forget, it's been a while since Fedor fought and he's getting close to that point where you've got to worry about age. The guy does rely on his hand speed.

[zY|]

Hate to admit it, but I agree that the value is on Werdum here. Fedor should win, but I think this line is reflecting Werdum being underrated. And let's not forget, it's been a while since Fedor fought and he's getting close to that point where you've got to worry about age. The guy does rely on his hand speed.

I agree, if I was to bet on Werdum it'd be because I'm gambling on Fedor having lost a step, not that I think Werdum is super threatening to him.

[SPX]

. . . but I think this line is reflecting Werdum being underrated.

I think this line is reflecting good and honest men like ourselves being dicked out of a good bet.

Because I'm not taking Fedor at -800. And Werdum is extraordinarily unlikely to win.

[zY|]

. . . but I think this line is reflecting Werdum being underrated.

I think this line is reflecting good and honest men like ourselves being dicked out of a good bet.

Because I'm not taking Fedor at -800. And Werdum is extraordinarily unlikely to win.

Betting that Fedor is going to lose is like betting that the sun won't come out tomorrow.

Personally, I need a little better than +600.

[Thewiseman]

This match is good for Fedor, he will win but I think Werdum has value, I think +500 and better I would take Werdum for a micro bet. I dont have Bodog or sportsbook though.

[SPX]

Betting that Fedor is going to lose is like betting that the sun won't come out tomorrow.

Personally, I need a little better than +600.

I expected Fedor to be around -500, which seems to be the standard line for fights like this, i.e. fights where there's a pretty big gap in skill set, but both fighters are still very competent.

This seems more like the line for Fedor vs James Thompson or some shit like that.

[zY|]

Betting that Fedor is going to lose is like betting that the sun won't come out tomorrow.

Personally, I need a little better than +600.

I expected Fedor to be around -500, which seems to be the standard line for fights like this, i.e. fights where there's a pretty big gap in skill set, but both fighters are still very competent.

This seems more like the line for Fedor vs James Thompson or some shit like that.

I think the Collossus would even beat Werdum.

[zY|]

Looks like Fedor's fighting Werdum and Cyborg at the same time.

[Mr. IWS]

that line is Teh Lulz

[Mr. IWS]

Fedor's reign may one day end, but not because of fucking Febricio Werdum.

UBEREEM!

[MMA_scientist]

Werdum sucks. I don't know why you have so much faith in him. He got straight cancelled by JDS and then went on to win a very lackluster decision against Bigfoot. Oh, and he looked like shit against AA since you like to go back to old fights.

I've never seen ANYTHING to impress me out of Werdum. Maybe the Vera fight. Sort of. I didn't expect to see Vera get outwrestled like he did, but whatever, Vera is no Fedor.

Fedor's reign may one day end, but not because of fucking Febricio Werdum.

You are just straight up hating. Werdum is now and has been a top 10 HW for several years. In no way does he suck. He probably doesn't have the tools to beat Fedor, but he definately doesn't suck. Just because you have only seen his lackluster UFC fights, doesn't mean he sucks.

A win over Bigfoot is nothing to sneeze at. Bigfoot has only lost 1 other fight.



He also beat the shit out of your lover Alistair Overeem. If I remember correctly making his cry uncle pretty quickly. He also beat Gonzaga and Aleks.


Werdum is a stud. Don't hate.


And whoever said Thompson would beat Werdum, GTFO and go back under your bridge.

[Mr. IWS]

I think Werdum is justin top 10. the guy is solid. I dont think he beats Fedor, but I dont think he is a bum.

Getting blown up by JDS isnt a bad loss IMO. That dude is pushing everyones shit in right now.

[MMA_scientist]

I think Werdum is justin top 10. the guy is solid. I dont think he beats Fedor, but I dont think he is a bum.

Getting blown up by JDS isnt a bad loss IMO. That dude is pushing everyones shit in right now.

agreed, he is somewhere in the 8-10 area.

I would go
mine: SD:
Fedor Fedor
Brock Brock
Carwin Cain
Cain Carwin
JDS Mir
Alistair JDS
Mir Overeem
Werdum Nog
Nogueira Werdum
GG/Rogers Bigfoot


I think Sherdog has him at 9. He has been in the top 10 since about 2006. Also SD has Bigfoot in the top 10.

Werum has wins over 3 current top 10 guys. I do not think he will beat Fedor, but I don't get why everyone is sleeping on him either. Its a legit fight and a very tough test for Fedor.

[Mr. IWS]

I know he has great Jitz, but I just cant see him subbing Fedor. Fedor was all up in Nog's guard with no problems, and I think he is savvy enough to stay out of trouble.

If Werdum gets on top, that could be a problem, but again, I think Fedor can stay out of trouble there. Werdum is going to have a hell of a time even getting him down IMO.

And he has no shot winning any part of the stand up. He got wrecked by JDS, and was in trouble standing with Big foot.

That said, there is no way that line should be where it is right now.

[MMA_scientist]

I know he has great Jitz, but I just cant see him subbing Fedor. Fedor was all up in Nog's guard with no problems, and I think he is savvy enough to stay out of trouble.

If Werdum gets on top, that could be a problem, but again, I think Fedor can stay out of trouble there. Werdum is going to have a hell of a time even getting him down IMO.

And he has no shot winning any part of the stand up. He got wrecked by JDS, and was in trouble standing with Big foot.

That said, there is no way that line should be where it is right now.

I agree he won't submit Fedor from guard, or probably at all. Werdum is not really a guard player, although that's where he subbed Overeem. He is more positional. But he is a much bigger man than Fedor. Werdum is every bit as big as Bigfoot (when they fought, he looked bigger to me). Werdum will probably have trouble getting him down, but Fedor has been taken down by lesser wrestlers. The JDS KO was lightning in a bottle, I don't expect Fedor to walk out there an nap him. Werdum usuallt has pretty good defense. He has a bad habit of trading though, and throwing wild kick combos, which probably isn't a good idea here.