UFC on Versus 2 odds

[zY|]

[zY|]

Am I way off here or is Okami -145 a gift? He's going to demolish Munoz. Munoz is not Sonnen and he's not going to outwrestle Okami, he couldn't even take down Kendall Grove.

[ManBoobKilla]

-145 on okami is looking really good actually. I think it will definatly go up

[Luke]

Jones Jones -600? Jesus what a joke. The hype train effect is full steam ahead . The odds for Jones will be a joke from now on I guess

to answer your question I'd side with Okami too but need to watch some videos to be sure

[zY|]

I just hate betting on shit happening in fuckin August.

[Luke]

I just hate betting on shit happening in fuckin August.

You and me both or I would have bet Silva a month ago

[MMA_scientist]

I like Vlad at those odds for sure.

I think Munoz is going to beat Okami.

[zY|]

I like Vlad at those odds for sure.

I think Munoz is going to beat Okami.

How?

[MMA_scientist]

[quote=zY|]

I like Vlad at those odds for sure.

I think Munoz is going to beat Okami.

How?[/quote:14ngf3hi]

How is Okami going to beat Munoz is the real question. Munoz is a better wrestler and I think more powerful and explosive in the standup.

I could see Munoz taking him down or I could see him landing a big shot. Okami does not impress me all that much. He has some quality wins, but he usually wins via being a bigger wrestler, an advantage he won't have against Munoz.

[Thewiseman]

I like Okami, but could see Munoz winning. I havent researched this yet, but at a glace I like Okami to at least -150. Jones still has value IMO. How does he lose? Havent seen alot of the Janitor.

[SPX]

Insane odds on Jon Jones. And Gomi looks attractive at those odds against Joe Stevenson. Stevenson is no Kenflo.

[ManBoobKilla]

Insane odds on Jon Jones. And Gomi looks attractive at those odds against Joe Stevenson. Stevenson is no Kenflo.

I was thinking the exact same thing about gomi. Stevenson cant pick him apart on the feet like kenflo did. The only question is whos wrestling is better

[zY|]

[quote=MMA_scientist][quote="zY|":3gk622wu]

I like Vlad at those odds for sure.

I think Munoz is going to beat Okami.

How?[/quote:3gk622wu]

How is Okami going to beat Munoz is the real question. Munoz is a better wrestler and I think more powerful and explosive in the standup.

I could see Munoz taking him down or I could see him landing a big shot. Okami does not impress me all that much. He has some quality wins, but he usually wins via being a bigger wrestler, an advantage he won't have against Munoz.[/quote:3gk622wu]

Can't jive with any of that. Munoz does not impress me all that much. Munoz may be a "better wrestler" but he sure doesn't display it in his fights. When he's not failing to take down Kendall Grove he's getting headkicked into oblivion by Matt Hamill. Okami also is definitely bigger. He's huge and has a couple inches on Munoz as well. And again, Munoz is no Sonnen. Okami should sprawl and brawl pretty easily. Munoz standup is abysmal.

[SPX]

Can't jive with any of that.

But can you fox with it? That is the real question.

Munoz does not impress me all that much. Munoz may be a "better wrestler" but he sure doesn't display it in his fights. When he's not failing to take down Kendall Grove he's getting headkicked into oblivion by Matt Hamill. Okami also is definitely bigger. He's huge and has a couple inches on Munoz as well. And again, Munoz is no Sonnen. Okami should sprawl and brawl pretty easily. Munoz standup is abysmal.

I generally agree with this, although I wouldn't call Munoz standup "abysmal." It's not great, but it's gotten better for sure. Okami's standup for that matter isn't great either. Dude punches almost exclusively with one hand.

But I do think Okami will win and I dropped 2u on him.

[poopoo333]

It's a hard fight to call. But Munoz squeaked by Catone, and he was dropped and was almost finished by Grove @ 112... it was a clear 10-8 round iirc. I think Okami would wipe the floor with Catone, and also beat Grove pretty handily. I will be on Okami for this one.

[Thewiseman]

Anybody know where I can find the Okami/Sonnen fight?

[poopoo333]

Anybody know where I can find the Okami/Sonnen fight?

http://mmavideolinks.to/fighter-videos/ ... okami.html

[Luke]

Anybody know where I can find the Okami/Sonnen fight?

http://mmavideolinks.to/fighter-videos/ ... okami.html

good link poopoo I'll have to favorite that site

[Svino]

Can't jive with any of that. Munoz does not impress me all that much. Munoz may be a "better wrestler" but he sure doesn't display it in his fights.

This is my impression of Munoz as well. I like the odds on Okami and Gomi here. As one sided as the Ken-Flo fight was, I'd say Gomi looked better against him than Stevenson did against Sotiropoulos, and Florian is much better.

I also think the Jones / Matyushenko line is in about the right place.

[Luke]

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I also think the Jones / Matyushenko line is in about the right place.

Got to disagree with you on this. How does beating too highly overated fighters like Bonnar and Vera warrant a -600 line against a good veteran?

This line shouldnt be anything over -300 imo and at -300 its still too high that I wouldnt bet it