2010 Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

[doublearmbar]

^^ everyone already knew you were sideloaded.

But not sure if serious about the rest...

I forced to post that by a mod, not trying to or anything.

[MMA_scientist]

I forced to post that by a mod, not trying to or anything.

I don't really think you can hijack the OT thread. I think the whoel point is to try to hijack it.

I still don't know if you are serious about it though... in any event, if you really do have the monkey on your back, I hope you get that shit straightened out. Seen too many people throw their lives away...

[Luke]

I still don't know if you are serious about it though... in any event, if you really do have the monkey on your back, I hope you get that shit straightened out. Seen too many people throw their lives away...

[Luke]

Ok guys i was sideloaded, I really have a problem with



anyways, I'm getting help now and really sorry for all the problems.

[doublearmbar]

Man it's great that a betting forum can help me keep my mind straight about stuff. Does one vice cancel the other out? I say that because betting and winning gives me a way better feeling.

[Luke]

Man it's great that a betting forum can help me keep my mind straight about stuff. Does one vice cancel the other out? I say that because betting and winning gives me a way better feeling.

sportsbetting is for sure better than drugs imo

[MMA_scientist]

^honestly, it is a terrible idea. But, I have to think it is a much less harmful vice in general.

Get addicted to training... that is equally addictive and has no downside. Jiu jitsu is the most addictive thing I have ever done. You start watching videos at 3 am trying to figure out a way to solve a position.

[MMA_scientist]

sportsbetting is for sure better than drugs imo

agreed... you know you have a problem when you start betting on sports you have never watched... jai alai and cricket and what not.

[doublearmbar]

Im just young and stupid and started to have way to much fun. Im realizing there is a price to pay.

[MMA_scientist]

My brother is an addict... hestarted "having fun" about 15 years ago... he would ebb and flow... he finally lost it and is prison now on a 10 year sentence. He fully recognized the consequences, but would just justify things... I have seen it go full cycle. Then in my job, I deal with abusers (both D & A) all damn day... it is just a stupid stupid habit. The costs so far outweight the rewards that it just seems borderline insane to me to even start. But having seen so many abusers now, I genuinely question whether their personality traits make them abusers or the fact that they are abusers give them the personality traits. Because it is like talking to the same person over and over.

It is common and seems inncucuos enough, but that shit adds up... then one day you are laying on the 4th floor of a hospital trying to detox wondering what they hell you did with your life. Then you get sad that you wasted so much time, and decide to drown the sorrow... Then one day you wake up and 15 years have passed.

Get right, because in all seriousness, it is nothing to joke about.

[doublearmbar]

10 years? Isnt that what murders get?

[doublearmbar]

Just to make sure on this point can you get in serious trouble for gambling on-line? I thought no, but I'm not real sure.

[Luke]

Just to make sure on this point can you get in serious trouble for gambling on-line? I thought no, but I'm not real sure.

no you cant get in trouble

[SPX]

no you cant get in trouble

You should go get that MMA lawyer to weigh in on this.

At the very least, there are state laws. Here in Utah it's illegal, a misdemeanor I think, but I'm not sure. I believe in some states it's a felony. But in any case, there's very little prosecution. I've only heard of 2 or 3 cases.

[doublearmbar]

no you cant get in trouble

You should go get that MMA lawyer to weigh in on this.

At the very least, there are state laws. Here in Utah it's illegal, a misdemeanor I think, but I'm not sure. I believe in some states it's a felony. But in any case, there's very little prosecution. I've only heard of 2 or 3 cases.

Man, I thought it was totally legal just hard to access.

[SPX]

Man, I thought it was totally legal just hard to access.

Federally, it's a gigantic gray area. Some legal scholars say it's illegal; others argue that it's not. In regard to individual states, many do have specific laws in place.

Go here, go down to Legality, then go to United States and you can read about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_gambling

[Luke]

no you cant get in trouble

You should go get that MMA lawyer to weigh in on this.

At the very least, there are state laws. Here in Utah it's illegal, a misdemeanor I think, but I'm not sure. I believe in some states it's a felony. But in any case, there's very little prosecution. I've only heard of 2 or 3 cases.

It is not illegal to gamble online .The safe port security bill made it illegal for banks to process money for offshore gambling .It did nothing to make online betting illegal.There is no federal law against playing online.
Now I'm not sure what the state laws are for each state so...

[doublearmbar]

So didn't wikipedia say sports gambling is illegal under the wire act but poker isn't?

[Luke]

So didn't wikipedia say sports gambling is illegal under the wire act but poker isn't?

The wire act just means you cant use telephone lines to call in bets .

The United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit ruled in November 2002 that the Federal Wire Act prohibits electronic transmission of information for sports betting across telecommunications lines but affirmed a lower court ruling that the Wire Act "'in plain language' does not prohibit Internet gambling on a game of chance."

[SPX]

The wire act just means you cant use telephone lines to call in bets .

The United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit ruled in November 2002 that the Federal Wire Act prohibits electronic transmission of information for sports betting across telecommunications lines but affirmed a lower court ruling that the Wire Act "'in plain language' does not prohibit Internet gambling on a game of chance."

I don't think you can simplify it that much. What if you're on a dial-up Internet connection, for instance?

Like I said, it's a gray area.