I'm almost tempted to say Cro cop can possibly take this. It's probably going to be closer than the line will indicate though.
I'm almost tempted to say Cro cop can possibly take this. It's probably going to be closer than the line will indicate though.
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Originally Posted by edman5555
I dont see why he cant take this. I'd make it a rather close line but if its big (-200 or more) Cro Cop for me
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I think Mir's way to win is to pull guard, because I don't think he will be able to drag Cro Cop to the mat. Maybe he can do the whole fake the takedown throw the hook thing like he did against Kongo.
Mir can muscle him against the cage and go for the takedown but that won't be a sure thing. I don't think he has much of a shot(takedown). Cro cop wins the striking battle I would think, depending on what he has left.
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just my two cents
I was heavy on mir over nog and ill be heavy on mir over CC, if the line is similar. However, I expect to get Mir a better number in this matchup.
CC doesnt have anything left. Barry was destroying mir until he broke his foot and hand in the first round(hand was his main weapon.)
Mir's new hands will be able to light CC up I believe. It will be one of those bets I would not mind chalking up a loss. Id love to see cc KO mir.
I'm sure mir will be a fav for this and I think he will probably win though there is a chance cro cop can outstrike him. Mir's striking isn't really that great.
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I thought Barry/Mir was pretty close, until Mir used that inside leg trip that lead to the outstanding flying armbar finish.
That was a good card overall. I especially liked Yeti vs the Magical Unicorn.
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Did not see this announcement. I think CroCop wins this... tough matchup for Mir. Mir doesn't have to goods to get it down.
The only issue is if Mir is a good striker or not. I am not convinced. I will be on CC as a dog.
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LOL what a dick. You're infringing on my turf again.I thought Barry/Mir was pretty close, until Mir used that inside leg trip that lead to the outstanding flying armbar finish.
That was a good card overall. I especially liked Yeti vs the Magical Unicorn.
I agree with the BJJ lawyer. Mir isn't going to take Cro Cop down easily, and for all the bluster about Mir's striking, he ain't the type to put the hurtin on Cro Cop. There's a big difference between Pat Barry and Frank Mir when it comes to striking. Mir could win, but I like Cro Cop as a dog.
Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit
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well the first round of Barry/CC was no where near to a competitive fight. And all that barry needed was speed, that was it, it wasn't technique that was beating CC. Then, barry broke his hand and foot, then it became a competitive fight. Mir is not a top striker but he is very technical and does have speed. Mir might not be faster than barry but fast enough for the obviously aging CC.
I'm picking Cro-Cop in this fight, also. If he comes in as a big dog, I'll be betting on him heavily.
Devils advocate question:
Would you guys like Cro Cop in this fight if he never fought Pat Barry?
Yeah. I wouldn't say we learned that much from the Barry fight, actually. Mir is a great matchup for Cro Cop though. I think Cro Cop still has the ability to sprawl-and-brawl well. Does the fact that Cro Cop was outstruck by Kongo, Overeem and JDS mean he will be outstruck by Mir? I doubt it.
He won't be outstruck by mir. No way. He might get bullied around the cage or taken down though. Mir can submit him also. That is a problem.
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Mir's takedowns suck ass, his only methods of getting this fight to the ground would be if he pulled guard or knocked Mirko down with strikes.
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Gotta copy someone from SD.
Break down Mirko. Mir KO.
Mir doesn't have the chops to takedown CC. The only question is if CC can still strike. He hasn't really outstruck anyone lately... and apparently Mir can strike now. Style-wise, CC could not hope for a better fight. The only issue is if Mir can actually beat him standing.
I will be on CC @ +180
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^^^^^ I completely agree. I'd say that this is Cro Cop's chance to beat a relevant HW again. If he doesn't get this one, he either needs to retire completely or stick to the senior-league fights.
^^^ I agree with the last two posts .I said if Mir is -200 or more I'm all over Cro Cop .
The Barry fight has no bearing on my decision. Barry is a fast striker,Mir is not . Even if C.C had been beat by Barry that doesnt mean he still wouldnt beat Mir
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