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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Get Uriah Faber on the line............diego is on a liquid diet after Thiago Rapes his ass BOPE style.
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Lets not jump the gun here guys. He got his shit pushed in by BJ Penn who has eaten Wrestlers with average striking alive his entire career. He went back to Welterweight for the first time in over a year and a half (since he started his career at Lightweight against Joe Stevenson at UFC95 if I remember right) and got outboxed by a very long Hathaway who is clearly a more accomplished striker and had an above average sprawl. It's not like he just went 0-2 to scrubs who he should have beaten.

    He has the skillset to beat Paulo Thiago who was just shown to have a less than stellar bottom game. Diego has never been submitted against the likes of BJ Penn(who he didn't spend any time on the ground with really), Nick Diaz, or Karo Parysian. 7 of Paulo's 8 submission victories came from the top at least in how he got to the positions. I've not been impressed with his bottom game and if Sanchez takes him down we know Sanchez has above average top control as well as extensive submission skills both offensive and defensively. I can see this one going to Diego by way of unanimous decision.
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Diego is an underrated grappler. There is 0% chace Paulo subs him. Actually, I would give the bjj advantage to Diego. He went liek 15 minutes with Marcelo Garcia in ADCC before he started training in bjj. He started as a whitebelt with Saulo Ribiero after he left Jackson's and earned his blackbelt the traditional way. Saulo is old school as hell. He would not be giving a blackbelt for advertising, unlike Rolles who gave a blackbelt to Rashad. I am sure Rashad could beat most blackbelts in bjj, but I seriously doubt he has a blackbelt level guard or submission skills.

    Anyway, Diego is legit on the gound, unless he is nearly unconscious from a shot, he is not going to get subbed by Paulo.

    That said, Diego has overrated striking and wrestling. And he is a lot smaller than Paulo. So Paulo may win, but not by submission.
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
    Diego is an underrated grappler. There is 0% chace Paulo subs him. Actually, I would give the bjj advantage to Diego. He went liek 15 minutes with Marcelo Garcia in ADCC before he started training in bjj. He started as a whitebelt with Saulo Ribiero after he left Jackson's and earned his blackbelt the traditional way. Saulo is old school as hell. He would not be giving a blackbelt for advertising, unlike Rolles who gave a blackbelt to Rashad. I am sure Rashad could beat most blackbelts in bjj, but I seriously doubt he has a blackbelt level guard or submission skills.

    Anyway, Diego is legit on the gound, unless he is nearly unconscious from a shot, he is not going to get subbed by Paulo.

    That said, Diego has overrated striking and wrestling. And he is a lot smaller than Paulo. So Paulo may win, but not by submission.

    It looks like they both have overrated striking then. If I had to give the edge I'd give it to Paulo and only because he has shown more one strike KO power in his hands. However Diego is easily the faster of the two and I think he can snag a few takedowns and grind this one out.
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Just read on sherdog that Tito/Forrest 3 is in talks for this card. Probably not true though

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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333
    Just read on sherdog that Tito/Forrest 3 is in talks for this card. Probably not true though

    Wouldnt surprise me
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333
    Just read on sherdog that Tito/Forrest 3 is in talks for this card. Probably not true though
    Tito needs to fucking fight CHUCK!
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    ^^^^^^^^^This

    I dont care which guy he fights, Im going against Tito.
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Tito/Shamrock 4. Who's with me?
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    I don't want to see Tito fight Forrest again, I want to see Tito actually win a fight. I feel bad for that guy

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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    ^ I don't. When he was young and good he shit all everyone and everything. Now that he is old and sucky, he wants to be revered as some iconic figure. He burned all his bridges and no one would pay him, then he had to come crawling back to Dana with his tail between his legs.

    I feel that he is partially retarded though, so I do feel a little bad for him in that sense.

    I want to see him fight someone new though. Someone relevant. Thiago Silva or Bones or Hammill or Franklin or someone. I would rather see him rematch Randy than Forrest.
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
    I feel that he is partially retarded though, so I do feel a little bad for him in that sense.
    lol
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    WHAT THE FUCK

    http://mmajunkie.com/news/20019/matt-ha ... ctober.mma

    oh and schaub vs gonzaga as well was addded

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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333
    WHAT THE FUCK

    http://mmajunkie.com/news/20019/matt-ha ... ctober.mma

    oh and schaub vs gonzaga as well was addded
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    That was one of my matchups for him. I like that a lot better. And Gonzaga/Schaub = awesome. Great matchmaking right there.
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
    That was one of my matchups for him. I like that a lot better. And Gonzaga/Schaub = awesome. Great matchmaking right there.
    The matchup is fine, but it's just weird how Tito was basically giving Hamill a blowjob on TUF3 and now they have to fight. Tito also goes to Matt's fights to support him still.

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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    There has to be a storyline to every Tito fight, because otherwise no one would care. He is not even close to being relevant, and his style is boring... so they have to manufacture drama for him.
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
    There has to be a storyline to every Tito fight, because otherwise no one would care. He is not even close to being relevant, and his style is boring... so they have to manufacture drama for him.

    didnt work ,I still could careless about this fight
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    I guess Madsen/Duffee is added as well.

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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez



    Way ,way too high for Shields(-365) imo


    LOL at Ortiz being a dog(+120) to Hamil
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