UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

[MMA_scientist]

Agreed, will put something on Kampman at those odds. I think Shields will win, but I would put him at like -220

[Luke]

will put something on Kampman at those odds. I think Shields will win, but I would put him at like -220

100% agree

[SPX]

LOL at Ortiz being a dog(+120) to Hamil

Are you going to bet on Ortiz? Do you think he wins?

[SPX]

Agreed, will put something on Kampman at those odds. I think Shields will win, but I would put him at like -220

Yeah, I'll ride Kampmann again at those odds.

[Luke]

LOL at Ortiz being a dog(+120) to Hamil

Are you going to bet on Ortiz? Do you think he wins?

If I was sure Ortiz wouldnt gas after 1 round I'd 100% bet him as a dog.

[MMA_scientist]

I think if Tito was healthy he would be a goog dog... I think his striking defense is good enough to not get hurt too badly and may get the better of Hammill. And I think at some point a healthy Tito would put Hammill on his back.

But coming off of his 100th back surgery... anything is just a roll of the dice. No bet for me.

[Luke]

I think if Tito was healthy he would be a goog dog... I think his striking defense is good enough to not get hurt too badly and may get the better of Hammill. And I think at some point a healthy Tito would put Hammill on his back.

But coming off of his 100th back surgery... anything is just a roll of the dice. No bet for me.

I want to hear how his camp is going before I make a decision. Talent wise I think Tito is clearly a level above Hamil .

[Ludo]

This really comes down to a wrestling match for once between two wrestlers since they're striking sucks ass. Whoever lands the takedowns and spends more time on top wins this one.

[Svino]

This really comes down to a wrestling match for once between two wrestlers since they're striking sucks ass. Whoever lands the takedowns and spends more time on top wins this one.

Or neither guy can take the other guy down reliably, and the fight becomes a Bad Kickboxing(TM) match.

[SPX]

Hamill's striking actually isn't that bad. It looks funky, but the fact of the matter is that he lands a lot of shots and apparently has plenty of power.

[Ludo]

I'll have to see more from him than outstriking Kieth Jardine and Mark Munoz who has no business at Light Heavyweight before I'm convinced his striking isn't bad persay. He certainly has power and he has a wider arsenal of strikes than Tito but Tito is also very seasoned and can take a beating without being put away(see Tito/Machida). You're right, Svino, this very well could turn into a horrible striking match which would suck like a starved hooker with braces on.

[SPX]

I'll have to see more from him than outstriking Kieth Jardine and Mark Munoz who has no business at Light Heavyweight before I'm convinced his striking isn't bad persay. He certainly has power and he has a wider arsenal of strikes than Tito but Tito is also very seasoned and can take a beating without being put away(see Tito/Machida). You're right, Svino, this very well could turn into a horrible striking match which would suck like a starved hooker with braces on.

Hey, he beat Jon Jones too, via elbows from the mount.

Gotta consider that as well.

[Luke]

I've made fun of Tito his whole career saying he's one of the most overrated fighters ever and have never bet on him but Hamil is no Evans,Machida,Griffin or Liddell. It all depends on what Tito has left

[Ludo]

I'll have to see more from him than outstriking Kieth Jardine and Mark Munoz who has no business at Light Heavyweight before I'm convinced his striking isn't bad persay. He certainly has power and he has a wider arsenal of strikes than Tito but Tito is also very seasoned and can take a beating without being put away(see Tito/Machida). You're right, Svino, this very well could turn into a horrible striking match which would suck like a starved hooker with braces on.

Hey, he beat Jon Jones too, via elbows from the mount.

Gotta consider that as well.

BOL

[Thewiseman]

I love Kampmann at those odds.

[Luke]

Hey, he beat Jon Jones too, via elbows from the mount.

Gotta consider that as well.

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[SPX]

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What the fuck?

[Luke]

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What the fuck?

that was my repsonse to this:

Hey, he beat Jon Jones too, via elbows from the mount.

Gotta consider that as well.

Since ZY wasnt around tonight I figured I say something wierd like he usually does

[AC88]

I think Kampmann's going to beat Jake. Kampmann's UFC losses have only come to better strikers. Not saying that Jake can't outgrapple him, but seeing as Kampmann has outgrappled everybody else hes fought.... and that Jake's standup is horrendous in comparison, this is a solid dog bet. I'm really happy with this.

[SPX]

Since ZY wasnt around tonight I figured I say something wierd like he usually does

LOL

I see.