Bellator 24

[SPX]

Well its according to who that 3-0 fighter is .

Does it really matter? They're 3-0. I mean, if unless they are documented to be able to harness their chi and shoot it across the cage or something, I'm not sure what factors would lead one to believe that such a green fighter could beat GSP.

[zY|]

Because it's women's MMA, not the stacked UFC men's welterweight division.

[Luke]

Does it really matter? They're 3-0. I mean, if unless they are documented to be able to harness their chi and shoot it across the cage or something, I'm not sure what factors would lead one to believe that such a green fighter could beat GSP.

Well will that insight Couture the UFC HW champ should have been -2000 to 2-1 Brock Lensar when they fought.


I mean it shouldnt matter Brock was an animal he was only 2-1 at the time

[Luke]

SPX have you actually seen footage of these two girls fighting?

[SPX]

Well will that insight Couture the UFC HW champ should have been -2000 to 2-1 Brock Lensar when they fought.


I mean it shouldnt matter Brock was an animal he was only 2-1 at the time

It's not exactly the same, because Couture was not, at that time, considered by many to be the P4P best female fighter in the world (which Fujii is right now). That's why I used the GSP example.

[SPX]

SPX have you actually seen footage of these two girls fighting?

I've seen 2 of Carla's 3 fights.

And yes, I've seen some of Fujii's stuff. She has vids all over YouTube.

I just got done watching her Bellator fight. Not very exciting because her opponent wraps her up from the bottom and refuses to fight most of the time, but Fujii was clearly in control the entire time. Here's the fight:

http://squabbles.com/2010/07/megumi-fuj ... ght-video/

[MMA_scientist]

^^ aren't you worried about a sprawl and brawl decision?

Those chick wrestlers are pretty good.

[MMA_scientist]

You know more about chick fighters than any of us. I don't bet the women. I don't trust them.

[SPX]

^^ aren't you worried about a sprawl and brawl decision?

Those chick wrestlers are pretty good.

I'm worried. If I didn't just recently get a good bit ahead then I wouldn't take the risk, but after the last event I'm up about 15u for the year.

I'm just thinking logically here. Megumi has great takedowns, is being trained by one of the best catch wrestlers in the world, and is just all around way fucking experienced.

She did get submitted by Kyra Gracie, though, in ADCC in 2005:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rLddFuWs0E

[SPX]

A Fujii highlight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cBHXb977Vs

[Luke]

I only like betting womens fights that have a wrestler vs someone with zero ground game

[MMA_scientist]

^^ aren't you worried about a sprawl and brawl decision?

Those chick wrestlers are pretty good.

I'm worried. If I didn't just recently get a good bit ahead then I wouldn't take the risk, but after the last event I'm up about 15u for the year.

I'm just thinking logically here. Megumi's has great takedowns, is being trained by one of the best catch wrestlers in the world, and is just all around way fucking experienced.

She did get submitted by Kyra Gracie, though, in ADCC in 2005:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rLddFuWs0E

It is reflected in the line too... she is -500. The world of female grapplers is small. We have a world champ at my gym that only had to win 1 match to attain the title.

I am just saying, those chick wrestlers are good. I would not be surprised if Fujii can't take her down. But a female judoka is probably a lot closer in takedown skill than the male counterparts (wrestlers > judokas in mma takedowns, it is not even a discussion).

[MMA_scientist]

I am not saying it is not a smart play... like I said, i know dick about female mma. just giving the counter point like you would do for me.

[SPX]

(wrestlers > judokas in mma takedowns, it is not even a discussion).

Interesting. I've usually just thought that they get their takedowns in different ways. Guys like Karo, Stun Gun, and Akiyama usually get their guy down, but they do it with a throw or trip, not a shot.

[SPX]

I am not saying it is not a smart play... like I said, i know dick about female mma. just giving the counter point like you would do for me.

I hear you. We'll see. 2x All-American does sound a little intimidating. But I just have to believe that she will not lose to this girl. It would be a massive upset. Female MMA isn't like men's MMA, so it's not an exact analogy, but Fujii's like the Fedor of women's MMA. At least for Fedor it took a very seasoned vet and BJJ expert.

[zY|]

Now go home and get your fucking shinebox.

[MMA_scientist]

(wrestlers > judokas in mma takedowns, it is not even a discussion).

Interesting. I've usually just thought that they get their takedowns in different ways. Guys like Karo, Stun Gun, and Akiyama usually get their guy down, but they do it with a throw or trip, not a shot.

Yeah, they do fine against non wrestlers. But even Diego (who was only a HS wrestler) was taking Karo down. Akiyama gets his takedowns, but equal pedigree, who would win a takedown battle @ MW... Chael or Akiyama? Chael. Same thing witha guy like Karo, I like Karo's style, but he would lose a takedown battle with Koscheck or Fitch.

Judo is an awesome sport, but the rules are too limited.

[poopoo333]

Is Yves Edwards going to lose again?

[poopoo333]

Oh, and Carla took this fight on 4 days notice by the way.

[sideloaded]

Im on Megumi 5u. And a parlay with Hecktor.