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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    Munoz will beat his ass
    I think it will be pretty close, but gun to my head, I'd pick Munoz.
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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    Karo and Hallman

    A welterweight bout between returning Karo Parisyan (19-5 MMA, 9-3 UFC) and Dennis Hallman (41-13-2 MMA, 1-4 UFC) and a middleweight fight between Gerald Harris (17-2 MMA, 3-0 UFC) and newcomer Maiquel Falcao (25-3 MMA, 0-0 UFC) are both official for UFC 123.

    UFC 123 takes place Nov. 20 at The Palace of Auburn Hills in suburban Detroit. A light-heavyweight bout between former champs Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and Lyoto Machida headlines the pay-per-view portion of the show.

    It's not known if Parisyan vs. Hallman and Harris vs. Falcao will get main-card or preliminary-card placement.

    MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) recently passed along news of both bouts.

    UFC president Dana White recently said Parisyan never again would fight in the octagon when the Armenian-American fighter withdrew from a scheduled matchup with submission specialist Dustin Hazelett this past November. It was the second last-minute withdrawal for Parisyan, who also bowed out of a fight against Yoshiyuki Yoshida at UFC 88 with a back injury.

    But the Los Angeles native did not give up on a return. He campaigned publicly for another shot in the UFC following a second-round victory over Ben Mortimer at a recent Impact FC event. He's now 4-1 (with one no-contest) in his past six fights.

    His upcoming opponent, Hallman, returns to action after a key victory over Ben Saunders at UFC 117. A significant underdog, the Northwest veteran used his significant advantage on the mat to cruise ahead on the judges' scorecards for a unanimous-decision victory. The win, which followed a heart-breaking late-fight knockout loss to John Howard at the The Ultimate Fighter 10 Finale, likely saved his UFC career.

    Meanwhile, Falcao, a Chute Boxe product, brings an impressive record to the octagon that includes a stunning total of 24 finishes among his 25 career wins. Among those stoppages, 21 have come via knockout. "Big Rig," who has fought just once in 2010, has finished his past seven opponents in the first round, and his lone career decision came in 2004.

    Harris brings his own 10-fight win streak to the cage. A cast member on "The Ultimate Fighter 7," Harris was released by the promotion following his appearance but returned to the UFC in January and has since earned three-straight knockout victories over the likes of John Salter, Mario Miranda and Dave Branch.
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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

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    Very well could have said that. Man you must really read my shit deep. Good, it will more than likely improve your bets.And it is all about us making money. But bottom line, I made no bet on it. I am actually pretty far from a Penn nut hugger.

    I just remember everyone saying Penn was going to win and I was the only one on Edgar
    I was on edgar in both fights.

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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    I've been meaning to write about this match up since it was announced. Initially I took it as a clear indicator that the UFC was giving up on B.J. as a factor in the light weight division and consigning him to the "senior circuit". But this MMA Junkie interview with Penn shows it wasn't quite that simple:

    "I talked to Dana, and they tried to put me in the ring with Florian, (and) Dana said Florian was hurt," said Penn, who submitted Florian in 2009 to defend the belt. "[Dana] said, 'What do you think about Hughes?' I said, 'Matt Hughes?' I got chicken skin all over my body. I said, 'Tell him I'm coming. Tell him, let's go.'"

    After suffering back-to-back defeats, Penn said he had more sense than to request a fight with a UFC Hall of Famer who fights at a heavier weight class - especially one who's climbed back into title contention with a string of wins over Matt Serra, Renzo Gracie and Ricardo Almeida. But with the opportunity to fight again quickly, and with Hughes on board, he simply couldn't pass it up.

    "I'm more respectful than that to lose two fights in a row and say, 'OK, give me Matt Hughes,'" Penn said. "They offered me that fight. Matt was really excited about the fight. Dana called me and said, 'We offered Matt the fight. He's going to put everything on hold to take the fight if you want it.' And I said, 'I've got nothing else better to do. Let's do this.'

    Hughes vs Penn is a great way to keep both fighters busy, entertain the fans, and make money for the UFC while the lightweight picture clarifies. If Frankie Edgar beats Gray Maynard and appears to be starting a long-term title reign than B.J. will be in the dreaded Rich Franklin zone.

    After Franklin lost twice to MW champ Anderson Silva, the UFC pushed him up to the 205lb division, although they also gave him a string of fights with more relevance to the MW division than the LHW: Dan Henderson, Wanderlei Silva, Vitor Belfort. So even though they said they wanted to keep Rich Franklin from being a MW gatekeeper and moved him up to 205lbs, they used him that way anyway.

    Unlike company man Franklin, the mercurial Penn is not someone to be relied on to tow the company line. The independently wealthy Penn is only going to take fights that appeal to his interests.

    If Gray Maynard beats Edgar, then regardless of the outcome of his welterweight fight with Matt Hughes, they can set up a rematch between Kenny Florian and B.J. to see which fighter will re-emerge as an immediate factor in the LW division.

    In the meantime, they've beefed up UFC 123 with a very strong co-headliner that should also be a great fight.
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/9/20/16 ... hting-matt
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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    You need to put a 'Kid Nate' alert when you post Bloody Elbow articles. That guy is such a drama queen.
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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    Anyone even want to venture a guess to the Jones-Forrest fight. I mean will it even be remotely bettable.

    Maybe a Bones-Machida parlay. Not the biggest fan of parlays, but I really want to find a way to bet Machida here.

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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    HHHMMM. Maybe Machida-Penn parlay.

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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    Quote Originally Posted by sbjj
    Anyone even want to venture a guess to the Jones-Forrest fight. I mean will it even be remotely bettable.

    Maybe a Bones-Machida parlay. Not the biggest fan of parlays, but I really want to find a way to bet Machida here.
    Jones/forrest is not happening. Jones/bader and griffin/franklin are set up.

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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    Quote Originally Posted by sbjj
    Anyone even want to venture a guess to the Jones-Forrest fight. I mean will it even be remotely bettable.

    Maybe a Bones-Machida parlay. Not the biggest fan of parlays, but I really want to find a way to bet Machida here.

    How about Machida 2.5 units to win 1?

    I personally think parlays are a bad idea unless used in boxings
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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    I personally think parlays are a bad idea unless used in boxings
    What makes the difference in boxing? Longer odds?

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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    I don't know...but I just think Machida @-250 is a steal. I think Machida is going to make Rampage look like an idiot.

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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage-Bones/Forrest

    Machida by decision...
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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage



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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

    Aaron Simpson might be good at that price.
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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

    Ill parlay Davis with someone, not sure yet who that is.
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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

    Phil Davis is going in the locks parlay until they match him with a top 10 guy.
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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
    Phil Davis is going in the locks parlay until they match him with a top 10 guy.
    I might bet him, too. I have to admit I can't recall the fights right now, but with losses to Brilz, Hamill, and Matyushenko, it doesn't look like Boetsch has what it takes to stop a solid wrestler.

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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

    New odds


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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

    Fuck I'm tempted to take Hughes. But I don't know if we are going to see a glimpse of the old BJ Penn or just this old BJ Penn. Lauzon is a live dog though.
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    Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

    Quote Originally Posted by IWS Zak
    Ill parlay Davis with someone, not sure yet who that is.
    Why not do a black power parlay with Harris?
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