Strikeforce October 9th

[poopoo333]

http://mmajunkie.com/news/20382/kaufman ... a#comments

Kaufman vs Coenen
Lindland vs Rockhold
Diaz vs TBA

[Mr. IWS]

Hope its Diaz vs. Mayhem.

[SPX]

Lindland vs Rockhold will be interesting.

I'm on Rockhold if he comes in as a dog.

[Luke]

Chad Griggs vs. Brett Rogers will be fighting soon. Not sure if its this card or a later one

[poopoo333]

Chad Griggs vs. Brett Rogers will be fighting soon. Not sure if its this card or a later one

I was wondering who they would have Rogers fight next to make him relevant again.

[SPX]

Rogers by murder. Oh, god, to get a good line on this one. . .

[poopoo333]

Final card:
Diaz/Noons
Thomson/Cavalacante
Kaufman/Coenen
Woodley/Galvao


Lines aren't out yet though but I figure we should start discussing since it's Saturday. I just watched Noons/Diaz 1.. I guess the question is how much has KJ Noons' TDD improved along with Diaz's TDs since then? Noons stuffed all but one takedown (he got back to his feet easy) with ease and Diaz's TDs looked pretty shitty. Noons was lighting Diaz up on the feet as well. I don't anything about Cavalacante. I am leaning towards Woodley but I have to watch some fights first.

[SPX]

Considering Diaz is so in love with his boxing, I'm not sure that takedowns are even going to be an issue. But who knows what his gameplan will be.

[Mr. IWS]

Ill probably be on Diaz here myself.

[MMA_scientist]

I see no reason why Noons won't beat him again. Noons SHOULD be the better boxer, which seems to be the key for beating Diaz. That said, something tells me Diaz is going to punk him.

I think Thomson sprawls his way to a win.

Galvao by sub in the first, or he loses a decision. I might make a prop bet there, rd1 sub or decision...

[SPX]

Line's up!

[MMA_scientist]

I am gonna sit on it, I think Noons will go higher. The line looks about right to me.

[SPX]

I am gonna sit on it, I think Noons will go higher. The line looks about right to me.

Yeah, I don't have a choice since Diego killed my 5dimes account and I've never resurrected it. But I do hope KJ goes higher. I will be on him even at the current line though, provided we don't get a surprise and money comes in on him.

[poopoo333]

Line is dropping, Noons is now +115.

[edman5555]

Im really not that impressed with Nick Diaz. I think Nate is a lot better. I haven't seen a lot of Nick's fights but what I have seen was unimpressive and his record is not that great.

KJ's record is a bit wierd. He is an on and off fighter. Does he take time off to box or what? This will be his fourth fight in 2010 though. So we know he is "on track".

What makes you think Nick will beat him this time Scientist?

[Mr. IWS]

Im really not that impressed with Nick Diaz. I think Nate is a lot better. I haven't seen a lot of Nick's fights but what I have seen was unimpressive and his record is not that great.

notsureifsrs?

[MMA_scientist]

I think Diaz's boxing has improved, and he has more outs. Diaz's weakness is his wrestling (takedowns and TD defense). I think the striking will be closer this time (Diaz had that surgery to fix his cut issue). Noons has gassed before (Heun). Diaz could sub him, outwork him on the feet, or wait until Noons fades...

I am not overwhelmed with Diaz either, I certainly don't think he is top 10 like some guys do. But Noons is basically a boxer with good takedown defense. He has to do what he did last time again. Diaz can win in any number of ways. Diaz knows what Noon's gameplan is going to be.

Don't get me wrong, the only bet here is Noons, IMO... No way I would bet Diaz, but I think he will get it done with his reach and maybe a takedown or 2.

[edman5555]

His eyes still look fucked up but he has been winning lately so I assume he isn't getting cut. Noons doesn't look like a serious MMA fighter though. Thats my problem. He fights on and off. Does he even have an official gym he trains at?

[sbjj]

The fact that this fight is at 170 is preety big IMO. Noons has not fought @ 170 ever, and was not even a big 155er. It will also be a 5 round fight, and Diaz will be pushing the pace big time here. Noons may win the first round, and hang a bit in the second, but IMO Diaz is going to clearly take over the fight somewhere about midway through the second round.

i bet Noons the first time, and if it was at 155 i might do it again. But @ 170 I believe Diaz holds some pretty big advantages.

As much as I would like to see Noons win again, I just do not see it happening here.

[edman5555]

Yeah I was thinking the same. He isn't going to win on cuts and Diaz was landing a lot of takedowns last time. Diaz by Sub would not suprise me.