UFC 125

[SPX]

I meant really with a question mark. MAybe your right. Gray does hit harder though.

I agree that Gray hits harder. But Edgar's faster. And he floats like a butterfly. And he hurt Veach standing so we know he at least has the potential to do so.

I think on the feet he'll frustrate Gray, just like he did to Sherk and just like he did to BJ.

As for the wrestling, I would probably still have to give the edge there to Gray, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised to see Edgar turn the tables on him. It all depends on how much both guys have improved in that regard since their first meeting.

At the current odds, I'm willing to bet that Edgar can win this. If the odds were reversed, I'd probably be on Gray.

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[MMA_scientist]

lol @ Vera facing off in his speedo. Put some shorts on dude.

[Mr. IWS]

Best evaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[SPX]

I really hope Baroni wins.

[zY|]

I really hope Baroni wins.

Don't get all sentimental. He's not UFC quality and that's just the way it is. If he doesn't win in the first minute he's going to lose.

[poopoo333]

Don't get all sentimental. He's not UFC quality and that's just the way it is. If he doesn't win in the first minute he's going to lose.

He isn't UFC quality? He is the best ever.

[SPX]

Don't get all sentimental. He's not UFC quality and that's just the way it is. If he doesn't win in the first minute he's going to lose.

I don't care. I want him to win.

[zY|]

I don't care. I want him to win.

I know but you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

[SPX]

I know but you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

Oh, almost definitely.

[edman5555]

I added .5u Brandon Vera and .5 Brandon Vera to win a dec.

[poopoo333]

Every underdog on this card is live imo

[MMA_scientist]

Every underdog on this card is live imo

Agreed. There is not one fight that I would be surprised in the least if the dog won.

I am probably going to put something on Stann.

[edman5555]

I am feeling you on the Stann bet. He can prob outpoint Leben. I think he might be a better wrestler but I haven't really seen that myself. I just get that from what I have read. Also, he looks to be much bigger. I would take him straight and maybe by decision.

[Mr. IWS]

I still like Leben in that one, but No play for me now. two many variables with Leben coming into this one (weight cut, dui, hes a fuckin nut ball).

[poopoo333]

I am feeling you on the Stann bet. He can prob outpoint Leben. I think he might be a better wrestler but I haven't really seen that myself. I just get that from what I have read. Also, he looks to be much bigger. I would take him straight and maybe by decision.

Stann is not a better wrestler, unless he has drastically improved since the Massenzio fight. Grappling has always been Stann's weak point, but it looked to be improved in the Massenzio fight (he won by triangle). I think this fight plays out on the feet and in the clinch (unless Leben is easily able to take Stann down).

I still like Leben in that one, but No play for me now. two many variables with Leben coming into this one (weight cut, dui, hes a fuckin nut ball).

I wouldn't worry much about the weight cut tbh, it is probably nothing new for him. Stann has a big cut as well, he is about 210.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah I think Leben can win. But the thing that Leben does well, Stann also does just as well (bang). I think Leben will be teh better wrestler though, and he probably has a better submission game off his back. That triangle win over Massenzio... Massenzio was half dead with fatigue. It was really similar to Leben's triangle over Akiyama.

I think Stann will be in better shape and will be more disciplined in the striking. Then I saw hom much bigger he was at the weigh in... I don't know that Leben is going to be able to press him against the cage. Also Stann is going to have some reach. Also, his chin holds up. Then I heard that Stann asked for the fight... that doesn't mean anything really (Grove asked for Maia too), but it probably means he has confidence that there is a weakness he can exploit.

anyway, I am going to put something small there, maybe .5u