Strikeforce St. Louis Dec. 4th

[Luke]

Smith (17-7) vs Jesse Finney (6-1)

Henderson vs Babalu

Herschel Walker vs TBA


and possibly Fedor

Fedor Emelienenko offered Dec. 4th or late January 2011 spots, M1 will make decision based on negotiations w/ Showtime

[Luke]

Paul Daley vs. Scott Smith


also no Fedor on this card

[SPX]

Interesting matchup. Should be a good fight, but obviously the technical advantage will be all on Daley's side of the table.

[Mr. IWS]

If the line is right, Ill be all over Daley here.

[Ludo]

Think Daley will actually make weight this time?

[zY|]

If the line is right, Ill be all over Daley here.

-500

[Luke]

[quote=zY|]

If the line is right, Ill be all over Daley here.

-500[/quote:1thm6kqs]


If its -500 I'll be on Smith for sure . Daley hasnt impressed me at all lately

[zY|]

[quote=Luke]

If the line is right, Ill be all over Daley here.

-500

If its -500 I'll be on Smith for sure . Daley hasnt impressed me at all lately[/quote:zl7rlsfe]

Yeah. It probably won't be anywhere near that high. I just think Smith is not really good at anything except persevering, and Daley is going to absquatulate him from the cage pretty handily.

[SPX]

Yeah. It probably won't be anywhere near that high. I just think Smith is not really good at anything except persevering, and Daley is going to absquatulate him from the cage pretty handily.

Smith is also good at hitting really hard. I'm not sure if you'd call that a "skill" so much as it is an "ability" but it's obvious he hits a lot harder than a lot of other people in his division (or even in all of MMA).

[Luke]

Robbie Lawler vs Matt Lindland signed for Dec. 4 in St. Louis

http://bit.ly/9XFLtv

[MMA_scientist]

Smith is overrated. Daley should win the striking exchanges. No bet though. Hendo/Babalu is interesting. They are both past their primes, but after Babalu's kickboxing display, I wonder what Hendo's strategy will be.

[poopoo333]

Cover your boner scientist, roger gracie vs mike kyle is set for this card.

[Mr. IWS]

^^^^^^^^^LOL

[MMA_scientist]

Cover your boner scientist, roger gracie vs mike kyle is set for this card.

I am going to be rolling hard in Roger's posse for this one... He came to the academy last month. He is supposed to be coming back by in Dec... He is a genius on the mat, bjj GOAT IMO.

I can't hide my enthusiasm.

Roger by RNC in Round 1.

[Ludo]

Cover your boner scientist, roger gracie vs mike kyle is set for this card.

I am going to be rolling hard in Roger's posse for this one... He came to the academy last month. He is supposed to be coming back by in Dec... He is a genius on the mat, bjj GOAT IMO.

I can't hide my enthusiasm.

Roger by RNC in Round 1.

Did his striking get any better?

[MMA_scientist]

Did his striking get any better?

Doubtful... But at least he is tall.

He doesn't give a shit about MMA, he just does it as a hobby. He is rich and doesn't feel he needs to prove anything. He just does it to spread bjj and show that it is still the key to fighting.

That said, he said he has been working on his striking. But Kyle is tall too and hits hard. Roger will get lit up standing. Roger only needs one takedown though, Kyle will not survive more than 30 seconds on the mat. I think it took him about 35 seconds to tap out Randleman once he finally got it down. As washed up as Randleman is, he is still one the better wrestlers to compete in MMA, and a much better grappler than Kyle, IMO.

[Ludo]

Did his striking get any better?

Doubtful... But at least he is tall.

He doesn't give a shit about MMA, he just does it as a hobby. He is rich and doesn't feel he needs to prove anything. He just does it to spread bjj and show that it is still the key to fighting.

That said, he said he has been working on his striking. But Kyle is tall too and hits hard. Roger will get lit up standing. Roger only needs one takedown though, Kyle will not survive more than 30 seconds on the mat. I think it took him about 35 seconds to tap out Randleman once he finally got it down. As washed up as Randleman is, he is still one the better wrestlers to compete in MMA, and a much better grappler than Kyle, IMO.

It was a bit longer than 35 seconds but I get your point. My only issue is can Roger snag a takedown without telegraphing the hell out of it?

[Ludo]

Also, is it Me or does Roger kind of look like Gabriel Gonzaga in that picture?

[MMA_scientist]

^^ those brazilians all look the same to me.

Roger is actually pretty good at takedowns... Taking down Randleman is going to be difficult for any one. I don't remeber what Kyle's takedown defense is like though.

here is the randleman fight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IShMzv5s ... re=related

The knock down comes @ 1:30, already in mount @ 1:34, never loses mount, but you are right, it takes him about 2 minutes to get the tap, and he looks like he forgot he could punch... he hardly throws a shot once it goes down.

Roger bjj highlight, starts off for about 30 seconds of nothing but his judo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIk8XckFH3c

He is a judo bb, but I could see how his TD style would fail to translate... lots of trips.

[Luke]

Herschel Walker will meet Scott Carson in a featured heavyweight bout at Strikeforce "Henderson vs. Babalu" on Dec. 4 at the Scottrade Center in St. Louis, Mo., the promotion's CEO Scott Coker confirmed to ESPN.com on Friday.

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