WEC 53 Discussion

[poopoo333]

I was actually going to take Kamal @-200 but the line dropped right away

[Luke]

Varner has looked like crap lately why are you so sure about a bet at -245?

Not to mention he had 18 pounds to lose Monday just to make weight

[SPX]

A few reasons I like Varner (there will be some MMAth here):

1. He was actually winning against Bendo before getting caught in the guillotine . . . and Bendo smoked Roller.

2. I don't hold his loss to Cerrone against him. Cerrone looked like a beast that night.

3. He also clearly beat Kamal even WITHOUT Kamal's point deduction. Terrible judging in that fight.

4. Roller's biggest win is probably Anthony Njokuani, a fighter who is known for having big problems on the ground. Anytime Roller's fought anyone who was close to title contention he lost--Pettis and Henderson. Varner is a former champion who has superior boxing and, I think, good enough wrestling to keep it on the feet.

I don't like the line, but I think it's a bad fight for Roller.

[poopoo333]

IIRC, Roller's grappling looked like shit against Pettis, and he gassed.

[sbjj]

I will not bet Varner, just can not do it.

Cerrone really should smoke Chris.

Pickett should win.

Will bet Cruz.

Wineland is getting close to value IMO, I was going to bet him if got under -200.

[poopoo333]

^^What do you know about Stone?

[sbjj]

^^What do you know about Stone?

Saw some video on him, and he actually looked really good. Then I checked the records of the guys he looked good against. Bit of caution, I am a real fan of Wineland, I think he has improved GREATLY from the fighter he was a year or two ago. i think the guy has worked hard, and become a much more well rounded fighter. if he can keep the fight upright, he SMOKES Stone.

[Thewiseman]

Cerrone 3.25u to win 1u
Roller .7u to win 1.26u
Wating for the props, Probably will end up betting Cruz by decision.
I think Cerrone crushes Horedecki, and Roller if he's on can possibly beat Varner. I say 60/40.

[Luke]

Kamal line dropped to -175 already ,Varner went up . I figured both would go down

Varner shot up like a rocket.

sporttbook opened Varner at -200 and Kamal at -155 . I wonder which way they'll go from here? You think they'll go up?

[SPX]

sporttbook opened Varner at -200 and Kamal at -155 . I wonder which way they'll go from here? You think they'll go up?

Hard to say. My guess is they'll stay right around there. I obviously should've waited on Varner but it seemed like his line was headed into space.

[Luke]

sporttbook opened Varner at -200 and Kamal at -155 . I wonder which way they'll go from here? You think they'll go up?

Hard to say. My guess is they'll stay right around there. I obviously should've waited on Varner but it seemed like his line was headed into space.

Well I was only going to be Bart and Roller if they did head to space so I'll probably just pass

[MMA_scientist]

Caraiso has value IMO

Not sure why Barao is such a fave. Barao was having a lot of trouble with Leone in his WEC debut. He was struggling to get the takedown on Leone and lost a round before catching the armbar in rd 3.

Caraiso showed some nifty bjj of his own in his debut against Rebello, though he did get taken down repeatedly. But he got up a lot too and hit some sweeps. And he looks to have decent striking.

Barao is a supposed ot be a bad ass, but I think Caraiso is totally viable here.

[SPX]

If Bart's line goes back up I might get on him for half a unit.

What makes Kamal so fucking awesome? I do think he should be favored, but Bartimus is a solid fighter and has the experience edge.

[Luke]

If Bart's line goes back up I might get on him for half a unit.

What makes Kamal so fucking awesome? I do think he should be favored, but Bartimus is a solid fighter and has the experience edge.

Pretty much my thoughts

[Mr. IWS]

Didnt this shit company go out of buisness?

[Svino]

Didnt this shit company go out of buisness?

[MMA_scientist]

Already on Cruz.

Thinking about Pickett.

Probably going to be on Cariaso.


Any thoughts on Pickett/Menjivar?

[Thewiseman]

Cerrone 3.25u to win 1u
Roller .7u to win 1.26u
Wating for the props, Probably will end up betting Cruz by decision.
I think Cerrone crushes Horedecki, and Roller if he's on can possibly beat Varner. I say 60/40.

cruz/Jorgensen goes the distance 3u to win 2u

[sbjj]

Already on Cruz.

Thinking about Pickett.

Probably going to be on Cariaso.


Any thoughts on Pickett/Menjivar?

I was thinking about Pickett also. My concern is that he seems comfortable in fighting anywhere, and he may concede takedowns and lose a close decision. Maybe a bad decision.

Just hard to imagine a guy(good fighter mind you) basically taking 4 years off and then coming back to beat a DAMN good fighter in Pickett, and Pickett seems to really have found his stride.

[Thewiseman]

Cerrone 3.25u to win 1u
Roller .7u to win 1.26u
Wating for the props, Probably will end up betting Cruz by decision.
I think Cerrone crushes Horedecki, and Roller if he's on can possibly beat Varner. I say 60/40.

cruz/Jorgensen goes the distance 3u to win 2u

Palaszewski 1u to win 1.5u
If Shalarus fights a smart fight, he will probably win, but I think he will stand and bang, making this a coin flip.