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Thread: Strikeforce's 2011 Heavyweight Grand-Prix

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    NEW YORK -- Six years into his run as the consensus top-ranked heavyweight in mixed martial arts, Fedor Emelianenko -- draped in the white, blue and red colors of Mother Russia -- offered a message for his fans, many of whom were adorned in similar garb that winter night.

    Meanwhile, Andrei Arlovski, propped up in his corner after being coldcocked by a classic overhand right, watched as Emelianenko reveled in one of the best knockouts of 2009. Born and raised in Belarus, Arlovski understood every word coming from Emelianenko's mouth.

    He didn't like what he heard.

    "Emelianenko beat me and he said, 'This victory over Arlovski was for all my Russian fans.' In my opinion, this was wrong," said the 31-year-old former UFC heavyweight champion.

    Fedor Emelianenko added insult to injury when he took veiled shots at Andrei Arlovski after landing a concussive right hand.
    Those sentiments were off base because of their undertones, said Leo Khorolinsky, a Ukrainian and Arlovski's longtime manager.

    Leading up to the fight in Anaheim, Calif., Emelianenko's trainers made mention of Arlovski's roots. They pointed out that Arlovski was, in fact, not Russian. They said the same afterward. Emelianenko's trainer since childhood, Vladimir Voronov, after partaking in some celebratory whiskeys, sneered as much at the Belarusian's genealogy as his game plan: "Arlovski is of a Slavic heart and a Slavic soul. Arlovski decided to f--- everything and go forward, and that's why he paid."

    Saturday at the Izod Center in East Rutherford, N.J., Arlovski fights Sergei Kharitonov, a self-described "pure Russian." Of Arlovski, Kharitonov suggests the quick striker "has the mentality of an American" in that he spent much of his professional career in the States. Emelianenko offered a similar assessment Tuesday prior to an open-to-the-public meet-and-greet at the Roseland Ballroom, where the eight fighters competing in Strikeforce's Heavyweight World Grand Prix answered questions and posed for photos.

    "He's not Russian, he's Belarusian," Emelianenko said of Arlovski via a translator. "This is just a different country. It's a Slavic country."

    Asked for a reaction, Arlovski blurted out "f--- Russia" before he and Khorolinsky quickly said it was a joke.

    "I don't think Fedor nor Sergei are qualified to judge Andrei," Khorolinsky said. "They've never been in his shoes. They've never lived the kind of life he leads. Andre is very grateful to the United States and for his opportunity to fight in his second home. But he knows where he comes from."

    The loaded rhetoric may be more tactical -- or promotional -- than malicious on the part of Emelianenko, who has admitted to being friendly with Arlovski, although the men aren't close.

    And for that matter, sharing Russian blood hasn't led to the best of friendships between Kharitonov and Emelianenko -- training partners who fell out of contact when Emelianenko changed management in 2003. Kharitonov (17-4) was subsequently tabbed by Russian Top Team (which he has since departed) as the top threat in the gym's quest to end the reign of its former protégé. Entry into the Strikeforce tournament marks the first real opportunity for a fight between the two men to happen.

    "In Russia, it would be a very good situation if we meet in the finals," said the 30-year-old Kharitonov, speaking through a translator. "It would be very good for Russian people to watch mixed martial arts."

    Their paths wouldn't cross until the tournament championship, which demands two victories apiece to earn the right.

    "If life comes to the point that we have to fight each other, why not?" said Emelianenko, 34, of his fellow Russian, once a guest in the home of the former Pride champion's mother.

    "There was a time when we were really very close to each other," Emelianenko said of Kharitonov, who today represents the Golden Glory team. "But I changed my manager, I started working with Vadim [Finkelstein] and Kharitonov stayed in our old team. Maybe he decided that was the time to stop our relationship. He just changed his telephone number."

    Saturday marks Emelianenko's return to the cage after a submission loss to Fabricio Werdum last summer. A win against Brazilian Antonio Silva would offer a modicum of redemption and put him in the semifinals against either Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem or Werdum, the man responsible for Emelianenko's first loss since 2000.

    Many have picked Emelianenko to emerge from what is undoubtedly the more difficult side of the tournament bracket. Kharitonov, Arlovski, Josh Barnett and Brett Rogers will battle to determine the championship contender on the other side of the bracket.

    Kharitonov-Arlovski is a battle of quality strikers. The Russian is more of a plodder, content to sit in the pocket and fire power punches until someone drops. The Belarusian, loser of his past three fights, offers movement and speed.

    Both men expect a difficult test.

    "First time I saw him," Arlovski said, "I thought, he's a huge guy. No doubt. He's very dangerous and it's going to be an interesting, tough match."

    Arlovski hasn't forgotten Emelianenko's words in the ring following their Southern Californian encounter. The last thing he or Khorolinsky wants is to hear Kharitonov express something similar.

    "We live in a global world. This is a global sport. Let's be athletes and respect each other," Khorolinsky said.
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    dam, sergei sounded like he was in Labor. Its good to see they had top notch medical care for him.
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    Anyone got any words of wisdom on Overeem-Sefo before I do something stupid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Anyone got any words of wisdom on Overeem-Sefo before I do something stupid?
    They both suck, but I think Overeem should win. I always pick a guy that has an advantage in grappling over a 1 dimensional striker. Especially when the striker is 40.




    I planned on betting Fedor tonight, but his line went the opposite of what I thought it would do. I saw it getting to around -330, not -380

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    They both suck, but I think Overeem should win. I always pick a guy that has an advantage in grappling over a 1 dimensional striker. Especially when the striker is 40.




    I planned on betting Fedor tonight, but his line went the opposite of what I thought it would do. I saw it getting to around -330, not -380

    I got Fedor at -330 last night on matchbook . It was down to -350 or -345 on 5dimes yesterday before heading back up. I was still going to be Fedor 3 weeks ago when it was at -380
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    I guess I'll see where the line is at later. What are you thinking about betting on the Oldereem/Sefo fight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    I guess I'll see where the line is at later. What are you thinking about betting on the Oldereem/Sefo fight?
    If I bet it Im betting Overeem . I still havent put the bet in though,I guess I still have a few hours
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    Yeah I bet on him as well but arbed out. The only bets I really like on this card are SDR and Fedor.

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    I like Fedor via Zulu/Timmeh type shit, but I'm laying off the card tonight.
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    Jon jones beats ashton kutcher by split decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    Jon jones beats ashton kutcher by split decision


    Guess its back to Punk'd for Ashton
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    I just bet on jon jones, his line is still up on 5dimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    I just bet on jon jones, his line is still up on 5dimes
    Don't they end up catching that shit every time you try it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Don't they end up catching that shit every time you try it?
    Probably

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    I just bet on jon jones, his line is still up on 5dimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
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    quit it poopoo
    Well it is either I win or I get my money back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    Well it is either I win or I get my money back.
    You could also draw unwanted attention to your account that way.

    I've heard of bettors getting into shit specifically with 5d when betting on errant lines, so I'd be willing to guess that this could lead to the same result. Basically, you could be pegged as an asshole.
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    One time at matchbook someone put a ingame line up of +10000 instead of +100 and I put 11 bucks on it and won 1100. True story
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    Well it is either I win or I get my money back.


    LOL I was joking around .
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