Strikeforce's 2011 Heavyweight Grand-Prix

[edman5555]

I don't see how Fedor holds advantages on Reem. Oreem probably has about 40 pounds of muscle on Fedor. He is huge compared to Fedor. His striking is better than Fedors. It has to be at this point. He is the K1 grand prix champ. Grappling is hard to call. Let's say Fedor is better than Reem. How much of that is negated by the fact that Reem is so much stronger than him. He can power out of some sub attempts that most people wouldnt be able to. Wrestling....Fedor will have trouble getting Reem down just because he is so god damn big and strong. He tossed Brett Rogers around like he was a little girl. Brett GNP'd Fedor.

Fedor is the man but the days of one dimensional fighters is over and those are the guys Fedor excelled at beating.

[poopoo333]

^^Did you not see Fedor basically throwing Rogers to the floor as well?

[edman5555]

i dont remember that

[poopoo333]

[Luke]

Fedor is the man but the days of one dimensional fighters is over and those are the guys Fedor excelled at beating.

I cant take anything you say seriously anymore after this statement .

[Luke]

This tourney could make SF huge or ruin them if them f it up

[edman5555]

I cant take anything you say seriously anymore after this statement .

Fedor isn't going to make it through the Grand Prix Silly.

[edman5555]

BTW. Fedor won for a long time because he was way more well rounded than his opponents. He is a Sambo fighter. Sambo is actually really close to MMA. Most of his opponents didn't have high levels of skill in multiple areas. I'm not saying Fedor isn't great, he is amazing. But the guys now are really good in multiple areas as well. On top of that they are much bigger than Fedor. MMA is changing.

[Luke]

Fedor isn't going to make it through the Grand Prix Silly.

It was a joke........how dare you say something negative about Fedor



but I do think he wins the tourney

[edman5555]

It's def possible but the guys in it are actually all pretty good. Props to strikeforce for putting this together.

[Mr. IWS]

LOL @ Barnett. I gotta hand it to that guy. Gets popped for roids again, does some wrasslin in Japan until that shit blows over, then pops back up with the easiest road to the finals in the Grand Prix.

[MMA_scientist]

LOL @ Barnett. I gotta hand it to that guy. Gets popped for roids again, does some wrasslin in Japan until that shit blows over, then pops back up with the easiest road to the finals in the Grand Prix.

Yeah what the hell is up with that bracket? The best 4 guys are all on one side of the bracket. It is common to do this in MMA tourneys I guess, they want to be sure that Overeem and Fedor get to fight, and an additional fight risks injury and other problems. I wish they would have put Werdum on the other side of the bracket though... Put Werdum with Rogers or Barnett, and put Arlovski or Sergei with Overeem.

[Mr. IWS]

I would have seeded it like this:

1. Overeem (he is the champ)
8. Arlovski

4. Barnett
5. Sliva ( you could really flip flop Barnett or Silva here)

3. Fedor
6. Karitonov

2. Werdum (by virtue of his win over Fedor)
7. Rogers


In the second round, you would have gotten either your Fedor/Werdum rematch, or a rematch with Bert. I would have liked to see either one of them.

[Dr_Ngo]

The tournament's just a marketing gimmick. Without the tournament we'd get the same fights.

The fights that make the most sense is overeem vs. Werdum for the title. Fedor vs. Silva for #1 contender.

On the otherside of the brackets are the bums. Whoever is the best of them is a legitimate contender next.

However this whole "tournament" is going to really help Strikeforce. If this was a "real" tournament there would be seeds and we'll be seeing Overeem vs. Fedor on opposites sides to ensure a sick "finals."

Another x-factor is fucking Fedor. Is he going to last through the whole thing? Just afraid that he'll beat Big Foot, overeem beats Werdum, and he wants nothing to do with the reem.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't know why everyone thinks Overeem is going to beat Fedor. Zak, true seeding, I think I agree with your seeds. Although, I could see a case for Werdum #1, he has already fought all 3 guys on his side of the bracket, and he has already beaten all of them. But he did "lose" to Arlovski...

But odds wise, I would seed it (my lines):

1. Fedor
2. Overeem
3. Barnett
4. Werdum
5. Bigfoot
6. Sergei
7. Rogers
8. Arlovski

Honestly, though, I would not be shocked to see Arlovski in the finals. His takedown defense is pretty good, and he can probably handle Sergei and Barnett standing (Barnett is going to beat Rogers easily IMO).

Given the bracket we have, I go:

1. Fedor
2. Overeem
3. Barnett
4. Arlovski
5. Sergei
6. Werdum
7. Rogers
8. Bigfoot

Bigfoot really got hosed. He has to run through Fedor and Overeem/Werdum to get to the finals...

[Mr. IWS]

Another x-factor is fucking Fedor.

This

[Luke]

Another x-factor is fucking Fedor. Is he going to last through the whole thing? Just afraid that he'll beat Big Foot, overeem beats Werdum, and he wants nothing to do with the reem.

Well Fedor just signed a 4 or 5 fight extension with Strikeforce I would think this was all discussed during the neg. ,but who knows

[Luke]

Fedors line is too high for me to bet ,if people start pounding AA I might take Sergei at a nice sized dog

[Luke]

Barnett is about what I expected ,Overeem is a little lower than I figured would come out

[edman5555]

I think Silva has more of a chance against Fedor than people are giving him but I am def rooting for Fedor. I hope Reem beats werdum as well. Then we get to see Reem vs Fedor. Anyone predict a line for that?