UFC 131 JDS vs Carwin

[poopoo333]

http://www.ufc.com/news/tuf-13-coaching-announcement

UFC President Dana White announced today that former UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar and number one contender Junior dos Santos will match wits as the coaches of season 13 of the hit Spike TV reality series.

Following the season, which begins filming this month and begins airing on March 30, Lesnar and dos Santos will then match fists in the Octagon later in 2011.

This will be the first time either fighter has appeared on The Ultimate Fighter, which began airing on Spike in 2005. The last time heavyweights coached the show was during season eight in 2008, when dos Santos’ mentor, “Minotauro” Nogueira, faced off against former champion Frank Mir. This season, the two will coach a host of welterweight hopefuls looking to secure a UFC contract.

One of the biggest success stories of recent years, Brock Lesnar’s rise to the top of the UFC has been well-documented. A former NCAA Division I wrestling champion for the University of Minnesota, Lesnar brought size, speed, and power to the Octagon in 2008, and in only his fourth professional fight, he defeated Randy Couture for the heavyweight crown. After successful defenses against Mir and Shane Carwin, Lesnar lost his belt to Velasquez at UFC 121 last October. Determined to get his championship back, Lesnar knows the quickest way to do so is through dos Santos.

Unheralded Brazilian prospect Junior dos Santos turned into a contender overnight in 2008 when he knocked out highly-regarded veteran Fabricio Werdum in the first round. This spectacular debut was followed by finishes of Stefan Struve, Mirko Cro Cop, Gilbert Yvel, and Gabriel Gonzaga before earning a shot at the heavyweight title with a three round win over Roy Nelson. Yet instead of choosing to wait for Velasquez to return to action, dos Santos will risk his number one contender’s spot by coaching against - and then fighting - Lesnar later this year.

[poopoo333]

Dana White: "I was in communication with Brock and his camp. The stuff about not wanting to fight, wanting to go to WWE was wrong."

Dana White: It was tough getting Lesnar to commit. I'm preparing for a tough season. It's going to be an interesting 6 weeks of filming.

"No interim title at end of TUF 13 - Lesnar and Dos Santos will fight and winner gets Cain Velasquez for the belt"

"Lesnar vs. Dos Santos will be sometime in June. "100% in June."



...So if Lesnar beats JDS, he gets to fight Cain again? lmao poor Brock

[Luke]

FAIL by the UFC

[SPX]

Are you shitting me?

Two things:

1. Brock doesn't have the experience to coach anyone.

2. Brock's gonna be a sad panda because JDS will fuck him up.

I bet JDS's line is gonna suck after that ass whipping Brock got last time.

[poopoo333]

Are you shitting me?

Two things:

1. Brock doesn't have the experience to coach anyone.

2. Brock's gonna be a sad panda because JDS will fuck him up.

I bet JDS's line is gonna suck after that ass whipping Brock got last time.

We all know the main coaches aren't exactly the people coaching the fighters. I don't think you can compare the Cain beatdown to this fight. Cain had the wrestling to neutralize Brock's and was able to get back to his feet, JDS does not.


But I hope JDS KOs Brock.

[Luke]

And let me clarify before SPX comes to the UFC's rescue . I mean fail by picking two coaches that have a combined 7 years experience in MMA. I mean seriously what is Lesnar going to be able to teach anyone?


As for ratings I'm sure this was a good idea but its kind of defeating the point of TUF. I mean why not make Toney vs Kimbo coaches if you just want ratings?

[Luke]

Are you shitting me?

Two things:

1. Brock doesn't have the experience to coach anyone.

2. Brock's gonna be a sad panda because JDS will fuck him up.

I bet JDS's line is gonna suck after that ass whipping Brock got last time.

Wow X you surprised me .I thought you'd defend the UFC's decision to do this , glad you agree

[SPX]

We all know the main coaches aren't exactly the people coaching the fighters. I don't think you can compare the Cain beatdown to this fight. Cain had the wrestling to neutralize Brock's and was able to get back to his feet, JDS does not.


But I hope JDS KOs Brock.

I think JDS deserves the benefit of the doubt. He showed good TDD against both Gonzaga and Nelson.

Even if Brock comes out and dominates a round via wrestling, I think JDS makes him work for it and then (T)KOs a tired Brock in the second or third round.

[edman5555]

I would favor JDS just because Brock can't take a punch but it would only be by a hair. Who knows what will happen. After that ass kicking Brock may decide to start sparring a little more in the gym. Brock can also TKO anyone out there if he gets on top of them and has control.

[MMA_scientist]

FAIL by the UFC

Agree. Fail.


UFC is done trying to be a legitimate sport. I think they have just accepted that they are a boxing WWE hybrid and now the ONLY thing they care about is ratings.

[Mr. IWS]

I think this is actually a good idea.

Brock brings in all the viewers. All the casual viewers look at JDS and think Brock is gonna whip that ass. Those casual viewers buy the PPV, and watch JDS chase Brock around the octagon, and now everyone knows who JDS is.

[SPX]

. . . and watch JDS chase Brock around the octagon, and now everyone knows who JDS is.

Not sure why, but this made me chuckle.

[Svino]

This fight has opened at :Lesnar +125, JDS -155 on Bodog and Sportsbook.

I think I like Brock's side of the line.

[SPX]

3u on JDS at -155

I honestly thought JDS might open at -250 or worse.

[MMA_scientist]

I am not going to bet it, but I actually think Brock is going to win. I really hope not, like I would actually be happy to lose a bet just so he would lose... but I have to assume that Brock is going to get the takedown. JDS's takedown defense is still a question mark. But I know that Brock will win if JDS is forced to grapple. I hope against hope that JDS has Lidell like ability to stand up. We have only seen a glimpse of it in teh Gonzaga fight, but I am just hoping he can do that all the time.

[SPX]

^^^ Don't forget the Nelson fight. Nelson's a grappler and tried for takedowns but couldn't get them.

Like I said before, even if Brock can win the first round I think he will tire in the last half of the fight. All JDS has to do is hit him good ONCE and it's over.

[MMA_scientist]

I seriously doubt the fight is going to last more than 2 or 3 rounds... Either JDs is going to put him to sleep or Brock is going to hold him down and pound on him like he did to Mir. I like Roy, and I despise Brock, but I don't pretend for a second that Roy's takedowns are anything close to Brock's. The guys that hurt Brock on the feet did so after stuffing a takedown (or in Cain's case, getting up after getting taken down). But then again, Carwin and Cain are almost as accomplished in wrestling as Brock. JDS is smaller than all of them, he doesn't come from a wrestling base. Brock is probably going to get him down at least once (unless JDS just death punches him right off the bat). But since it is still relatively unknown, I have to think Brock is going to get him down and keep him here.

Roy has decent takedowns, but they are not D1 wrestler good. JDS still just has not had to face a strong takedown guy. I would have liked to see him against someone relatively shitty as a fighter, but with good wrestling somewhere along the path. Oh well.

[SPX]

I think if Brock wins, he wins a decision. I don't see him stopping JDS.

Also, I'm not sure about JDS being smaller than Cain.

Finally, sure, I don't think it will last more than 3 rounds . . . I haven't heard of this being for an interim title or anything.

[MMA_scientist]

For some reason, I was thinking 5 rounds... but if JDS gets stuck on the ground, I see no reason why Brock won't stop him. I really think it comes down to can he or can he not get and keep JDS on the ground. If so, Brock wins easily and probably devastatingly. If no, then JDS wins easily and probably devastatingly. Given the known quantities though, it is really just a guess whether JDS will be able to stuff the takedown or escape to his feet.

[poopoo333]

The line is already dropping. Fucking bodog and their 6 month early lines.

At + odds, I would definitely bet Brock. I really don't think you can use JDS defending Nelson's attempted trip TDs while being rocked/exhausted to say JDS has good enough TDD to stuff a 265 lb NCAA champ wrestler. If Brock gets JDS down, I don't expect JDS to easily be able to get to his feet at all, and if he does it's not like he will still be 100% fresh still to go all out and try to catch Brock with a shot. I can see Brock stealing 2 rounds via top control, and IF he even gets tired, I can see him clinching up against the fence in the majority of round 3.

That being said, as a fan, I really hope JDS KTFOs Brock.