Well every fighter has "tools", so you wouldn't bet against a fighter with them? I think Grispi matches up well stylistically with Roop regardless of their previous fights.Originally Posted by SPX
Well every fighter has "tools", so you wouldn't bet against a fighter with them? I think Grispi matches up well stylistically with Roop regardless of their previous fights.
I looked at the PBP for Grispi/Porier. I really did not remember it being that one sided... Grispi was trying to pull guard and got stuffed repeatedly on his shots. I guess I have to adjust my line down. Grispi is tricky off his back, so I don't know how much Roop gains by taking him down. But I thought Grispi's hands were better than they are.
Was Grispi's poor showing just a one off thing, first time in the UFC and all, or is he just all hype? He has some quality wins, but now I am questioning...
2012: +19.33
2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
^^I'll watch that fight right now
http://mmaufcvideos.blogspot.com/201...n-poirier.html
Most has to do with the fact that Poirier is a VERY good fighter.
I remember when he had his first fight in the WEC people were saying this guy was awesome, was tearing up the local scene, and to bet on him. I did and he lost. Since then, I guess I have been weighing that fight against him too much.
How do you guys rate Grispi's striking against Roop's?
2012: +19.33
2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
Awesome thanks. I have all but given up on finding vids these days and I generally just settle for the PBP.
2012: +19.33
2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
I think Poirier started in WEC at 155, lost to Castillo then dropped to 45
Yea, the Castillo fight. It was a close fight. I always thought Grispi was a bit overrated, but he should still beat Roop. But the line will probably be to high.
Dustin Poirier just looked great in the Grispi fight. Now that I think about it, Grispi might not be that good but I still think he has the grappling advantage over Roop. I mean, Grispi might be overrated...he subbed a white belt in Jens Pulver in 20 seconds, I am sure Stone Cold Steve Austin could do the same.
You know what I mean. He has FUNCTIONAL tools that he can--and has--done damage with to some decent fighters.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Roop is all that great. But the guys in the WEC who have really given him problems have been guys who are known to have very good technical boxing--Wineland and Hominick. I don't think Grispi falls into that category.
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Maybe because Roop has only fought strikers in the WEC: Wineland, Hominick, Garcia, and KZ. The last time he fought a good grappler he got ragdolled like a little school girl (against G Sot).
I don't think it has to be one or the other. He's a very good fighter, but that doesn't mean he's the best.
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Well, to be clear that was at a higher weight class.
How he'll do against grapplers at 145 is a question mark.
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He did beat LC Davis and Mark Hominick though. I mean, he has 14 wins, with 13 wins in the first round. He has some KOs. At some point, it stops being a fluke and starts becoming a pattern.
Roop has been subbed several times, so I think his plan is to stay outside and stuff shots and use his reach. I don't know, I am just going to have to see the line. I was thinking he was good up to -250, but maybe X has it more accurately capped at like -170 or so. I think I will probably still look at it under -250... if it comes in more than that, I am definitely out.
What do you guys think about Stephens/Downes?
2012: +19.33
2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
I would say I'm erring on the side of caution with that line. Maybe he just comes in and destroys Roop inside of two minutes. But I have been burned too many times in the past where fighters take a bad loss and for some reason have a string of fights afterward where they just don't look like they used to.
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http://www.mmageeks.co.cc/2011/02/ch...nes-fight.html
^Horodecki vs Downes. Downes had like 3 days notice
Can't find Downes vs the chinese guy though
Not liking much on this card. Stephens and Jorgensen should win, but there lines will be too high. Grispi is a finisher, and should beat Roop, but the price will be too high. Maybe a parlay of those 3. Rest of the fights are toss ups.
But shit, bmaker doesnt allow parlays on fights.
Someone said the other day that they just started, but I haven't checked it. . .
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They have been allowing them like 3 hours before the fight start
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