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    I think Marquardt has been off for awhile. He said in his past couple camps he doesn't struggle to make weight, that's why he considered (and went through) with a fight @ WW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    I think Story definitely has a good chance. If his line is around +140 like Johnson's was I'll be on him.

    I have a feeling Marquardt's going to end up regretting this welterweight shit.

    You really think Story will be the dog after beating Alves?
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    Here is the full card:

    MAIN CARD

    • Nate Marquardt vs. Rick Story
    • Pat Barry vs. Cheick Kongo
    • John Howard vs. Martin Kampmann
    • Matt Mitrione vs. Christian Morecraft

    PRELIMINARY CARD
    • Manny Gamburyan vs. Tyson Griffin
    • Joe Stevenson vs. Javier Vazquez
    • Joe Lauzon vs. Curt Warburton
    • Rich Attonito vs. Matt Brown
    • Charlie Brenneman vs. T.J. Grant
    • Nik Lentz vs. Charles Oliveira
    • Matt Grice vs. Ricardo Lamas
    • Edward Faaloloto vs. Michael Johnson

    Lentz vs Oliveira is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    You really think Story will be the dog after beating Alves?
    Stranger things have happened. He definitely doesn't have the name recognition of Marquardt.

    But I just said "if."
    Last edited by SPX; 06-02-2011 at 09:08 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Stranger things have happened. He definitely doesn't have the name recognition of Marquardt.

    But I just said "if."
    Well what do you think the line will be?
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    No idea. Maybe even.

    Remember that Marquardt has beaten the Alves's of the MW division in guys like Palhares and Maia.
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    I'll go out on the limb and say Marquardt -130 Story EV

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    No idea. Maybe even.

    Remember that Marquardt has beaten the Alves's of the MW division in guys like Palhares and Maia.
    Nope

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    Nope what?

    You're saying that Maia, a former title challenger, doesn't inhabit a role in MW that is generally equivalent to Alves's role?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Nope what?

    You're saying that Maia, a former title challenger, doesn't inhabit a role in MW that is generally equivalent to Alves's role?
    nope
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Nope what?

    You're saying that Maia, a former title challenger, doesn't inhabit a role in MW that is generally equivalent to Alves's role?
    Oh, the Maia that got KOd, beat Dan Miller, and stepped in as a late replacement for Vitor Belfort so they could keep Anderson Silva on the Abu Dahbi card? Yeah, let's compare that to a guy who went on a 7 fight winning streak and beat 3 straight top 10 opponents in impressive fashion to get a title shot.

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    Fools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    Oh, the Maia that got KOd, beat Dan Miller, and stepped in as a late replacement for Vitor Belfort so they could keep Anderson Silva on the Abu Dahbi card? Yeah, let's compare that to a guy who went on a 7 fight winning streak and beat 3 straight top 10 opponents in impressive fashion to get a title shot.
    Okay smart guy, so who are the Alves's of MW?
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    Oh and let's see.. since 2007 Marquardt beats:

    Jeremy Horn ...out of the UFC
    Martin Kampmann ...is now a WW
    Wilson Gouviea ...the guy with no gas tank and who was 10 lbs off in his next MW fight, and 3 lbs over in his LHW fight in the MFC
    Rousimar Palhares...who wasn't even looking
    Dan Miller ...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Okay smart guy, so who are the Alves's of MW?
    Not Horn, Kampmann, Gouviea, Palhares, or Miller

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    palhares who wasn't even looking. haha

    Miller is pretty decent.

    Good points though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    Not Horn, Kampmann, Gouviea, Palhares, or Miller
    Or Maia?

    So who? Seriously . . . tell me who would occupy the Alves spot at MW. You didn't like my picks so offer some of your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Or Maia?

    So who? Seriously . . . tell me who would occupy the Alves spot at MW. You didn't like my picks so offer some of your own.
    The MW division is thin as hell, so nobody really. If Okami loses to Silva in Rio...then I guess Okami. But even he only had a 3 fight win streak to get to the title. Maybe even Chael Sonnen. There really isn't a "Thiago Alves spot at MW".

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    I agree, but in that case, you have to at least that someone like Maia or Palhares--or Okami, sure--would be the nearest equivalent.
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