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Thread: Strikeforce Semi Finals of HW GP

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    I think Silva might be a bit overrated from his win over Zombie Fedor. Before that, I was still thinking of him as the guy who lost to Werdum, didn't look all that impressive against Arlovski (compare him to anyone else who fought Arlovski recently), and almost got taken out by Mike Kyle. On the other hand, I am really worried about the size difference. Cormier will have to win a grappling match and Silva's size will make that tough. I doubt Cormier takes it striking, unless he can get Silva to gas early.

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    But- Fedor wasn't really zombie Fedor until after the Bigfoot fight. It is not like Werdum laid a beating on him or anything. Bigfoot was the first guy to really take it Fedor. Fedor dropped Werdum and he damn near finished Hendo too.

    I agree, he has some flaws, mainly he got taken down over and over by Werdum and he is willing to just get into wild exchanges (although with a head the size of a breadbox and fists teh size of soccer balls, wild exchanges actually is probably pretty good strategy). He did get clipped by Kyle, but Cormier hasn't really hurt anyone with strikes, although he is looking better everytime.

    I think Cormier's movement is so much better and he won't just trade with him. I think Cormier can hang with him standing, just because I don't think Bigfoot will be able to land on him very much. And then he has the takedown out (I think). Bigfoot is a top player, he doesn't do really well from guard, I really don't think he can hold Cormier down either.

    The only X factor is the size difference and Cormier has never been in a ground fight with a big skilled guy like that.
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    How did he hurt his kidneys?

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    I think it was kidney failure from cutting weight

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    his last weigh in was around 240

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    so he isnt that small. I am sure he put on muscle since being at 185.

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    He is kind of small seeing as he looks like a miniature Roy Nelson with those bitch tits. If he were willing to cut or diet down he could easily make 205 with his frame.
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    All that size means jack shit when ur going against an accomplished wrestler. For reference check randy vs lesnar, cain vs lesnar, randy vs gonzaga, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edman5555 View Post
    so he isnt that small. I am sure he put on muscle since being at 185.
    I am sure he has put some muscle on, but you really don't grow that much, most of these guys are fighting at the college wrestling weights. Evern Randy who is 64 years old, only fights 8 pounds above his college weight class of 197. Askren and Koscheck were 174, so they actuall weigh less now. Hendricks was 165.

    Cormier is kind of an exception though, because he has competed at HW in the olympics- I mean he won the olympic trials as a HW, so he can obviously handle the size. I forgot he fought that really big black guy in Bellator- the guy had wrestled from Iowa I think and Cormier dominated him.
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    Yeah but the problem here is Bigfoot is also an accomplished grappler himself. Not to mention Cormier hasn't faced anybody even close to Bigfoot, this is a huge step up in competition.
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    No doubt, I only like him at + odds. I think it is very close, could go either way, slight edge to Cormier because of the wrestling and improvement in his striking.
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    Luke Gracie's line is getting a little worse...told you I was probably wrong.

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    5:35 is great

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    Luke Gracie's line is getting a little worse...told you I was probably wrong.
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    More itd props are up on 5dimes. One step away from the sub and ko props

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    thanks for the update. I am hoping they come out today. Sometimes they wait until teh day before the event to release the sub props.
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    I dont think they will come out till like tuesday at the earliest. Most likely thursday. Always a crapshoot as to when the lines break. U can get some stupid odds within the first hour or so.

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    Cormier by decision is sexy

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    http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Luke...n?vid=10007631

    luke rockhold vs jesse taylor. Taylor takes rockhold down a couple times, gets rockholds back. Rockhold reverses him and gets the rear naked on jesse. All five of Jesse's losses are by submission but he is still no joke. That said, if JT can take his back I would give Souza a good chance.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP8P-P6z1hc

    Rockhold vs paul bradley. Rockhold lands some good punches and drops Bradley twice. Bradley escapes pretty easy after being dropped the first time. Well timed counters from Rockhold but I think he will be slower than Souza. Special note: Rockhold is 6'3'' and Bradley is about 5'8''.

    After watching these two fights I think Rockhold will be in trouble on the ground. His wrestling might be able to hold souza off for a little while but prob not that long. He might be able to hurt souza standing but i dont know.

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