ADCC 2011

[Vandelay]

We gonna get odds on this?

Can we get a breakdown from scientist on favorites in each division

One note: Big Foot will not be competing due to shoulder injury which also knocked him out of hendo match.

(not sure how accurate this list is)

-65.9kg

1. Rafael Mendes. Brazil (current champion, ADCC 2009)
2. Greger Forsel. Finland (European trials winner)
3. Marko Ramos. USA (North American trials winner)
4. David Marinakis. Australia (Oceania trials winner)
5. Tetsu Hadairo. Japan (Asian trials winner)
6. Jeff Glover. USA (second North American trials winner)
7. Bruno Frazzato. Brazil (South America)
8. Timo-juhani Hirvikangas. Finland (Second European trials winner)
9. Ryan Hall. USA (confirmed invitation)
10. Rubens "Cobrinha" Charles. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
11) Barret Yoshida. USA (confirmed invitation)
12) Rani Yahya. Brazil(confirmed invitation)
13) Robson Moura. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
14) ???
Denny Prokopos. USA (confirmed invitation)(out injured)
15) Tom Barlow. England (confirmed invitation)
16) Justin Rader (confirmed invitation)
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-76.9kg

Pablo Popovitch. (current champion)(Moving up to 88kg)
1. Jorge Britto. Brazil (European trials winner)
2. Vagner Rocha. Brazil (North American trials winner)
3. Davis Hart. Australia (Oceania trials winner)
4. Sanshiro Nakakura japan (Replaced Gomi)
Takanori Gomi. Japan (Asia trials winner)(Looks to be out, fighting Nate Diaz UFC 135,24th Sept)
5. Enricco Coco. USA (Second North America trials winner)
6. Murilo Santana. Brazil (South American trials winner)
7. Daniel Strauss. England (Second European trials winner)
8. Marcelo Garcia. Brazil(confirmed invitation)
9. Gunnar Nelson. Iceland (confirmed invitation)
10. Leo Viera. Brazil(confirmed invitation)
11. JT Torres. USA (confirmed invitation)
12. Kron Gracie. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
13. Gregor Gracie. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
14. Augusto Mendes “Tanquinho”. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
15. Claudio Calasans Brazil (confirmed invitation)
16. Jason Manly (confirmed invitation)
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-87.9kg

1. André Galvão. Brazil (current runner-up – Bráulio will face Ronaldo Jacaré in superfight)
2. Marko Helen. Finland (Europe)
3. Kyle Griffin (confirmed invitation)
Rustam Chsiev. Russia (North America) (Out Injured)
4. Cameron Rowe. Australia (Oceania)
5. Jeon Doo Kwang. South Korea (Asia)
6. James Harbison. USA(confirmed invitation)
JJ Holmes. USA (North America)(never responded to adcc)
Claudio Calasans. Brazil (South America)(Moved to 77kg)
7. Zbigniew Tyszka. Poland (second European trials winner)
8. Pablo Popovitch. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
9. Rafael Lovato jnr. USA (confirmed invitation)
10. Romulo barral. Brazil (confirmed invitiation)
11. Rousimar Palhares. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
12. Sergio Moraes. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
13. Paulo Filho. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
14. David Avellan. USA (confirmed invitation)
15. Dan Schon. Mexico (confirmed invitation)
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-98.9kg

1. Xande Ribeiro. Brazil (champion)
2. Kari Peltola. Finland (Europe)
3. Joseph Lee Baize. USA (North America)
4. Igor Praporshchikov. Australia (Oceania)
5. Animal Anzai. Japan (Asia)
6. James Poupolo. USA (North America)
7. Augusto Ferrari. Brazil (South America)
8. Kamil Uminski. Poland (second European trials winner)
9. Roger Gracie. Brazil(confirmed invitation)
10. Rodolfo Viera. Brazil(confirmed invitation)
11. Joao Assis. Brazil(Confirmed invitation)
12. Dean Lister. USA/Brazil (confirmed invitation)
13. Robert Drysdale. USA (confirmed invitation)
14. Radek Turek. Poland (confirmed invitation)
15. Antonio Peinado (confirmed invitation)
16. James Brasco (confirmed invitation)
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+99kg

1. Fabricio Werdum. Brazil (champion)
2. Janne-Pekka Pietiläinen. Finland (Europe)
Mario Rinaldi. USA (North America)(Out)
3. Lucio "lagarto" Rodrigues. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
4. Mick Wilson. Australia (Oceania)
5. Sekine Hideki. Japan (Asia)
6.????
Jared Rosholt. USA (North America)(never responded to adcc)
7. Gabriel Vella. Brazil (South America)
8. Mateusz Juskowiak. Poland (took second in trials but winner already had invite- Europe2)
9. Jeff Monson. USA (confirmed invitation)
10. Bruno Bastos. Brazil(confirmed invitation)
11. Roberto "cyborg" abreu. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
12. Antonio ”bigfoot” Silva. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
13. Vinny Magalhaes . Brazil(confirmed invitation)
14. Geraldi Rinaldi. USA (confirmed invitation)
15. Fereira Jose Junior. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
16. Alexander Trans. Denmark (confirmed invitation)
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People who have said they would like to do absolute.

1.Pablo Popovitch-(Wants to do absolute GracieMag)
2.Rafael Mendes(quoted on front page of Mendes Bros wanting to do absolute)
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-60kg

1. Luanna Alzuguir. Brazil (champion)
2. Lara Jayne Ng. Australia (Oceania)
3. Hashi Takayo. Japan (Asia)
4. Cathilee Albert. USA (North America)
5. Michelle Nicolini. Brazil (South America)
6. Sara Svensson (European trials winner)
7. Krya Gracie. Brazil (Confirmed invitation)
8. Rosi Sexton. U.K (confirmed invitation)
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+60kg

1. Hannette Staack. Brazil (champion)
2. Fiona Muxlow. Australia (Oceania)
3. Penny Thomas. South America (North America)
4. Talita Nogueira. Brazil (South America)
5. Devi Ahuja. Norway (European trials winner)
6. Gabi Garcia. Brazil (confirmed invitation)
7. Ida Hansson (confirmed invitation)

[poopoo333]

war robson moura

[Vandelay]

the 87.9 and 98.7 kg divisions look stacked. I would of liked to of seen how big foot would have performed. And gomi would of taken the 76.9 division by storm.

[Ludo]

You are aware that Bigfoot Silva's manager isn't Ed Soares? It doesn't look like he'll be out of the competition. Anyway...

I'm interested to see how Strauss fares.

[MMA_scientist]

Bigfoot would not do well IMO.

We won't get odds in this. If we did, I would only bet ADCC.

-65.9
Rafa Mendes is the favorite. He is incredible, he will win IF he can make weight. He was 77kg in 2009. ADCC has a rule where you have to be on weight as you step on the mat, I think he will end up in 77kg. Caio Terra (Cesar Gracie) and Bruno Malficine (Alliance) are the two best grapplers at that weight. I don't see them on the list, so it there for Mendes to take. Some people think Yahya could be a dark horse because he as been out of the scene for a while and he has been working his wrestling. Rader is the current no-go world champ, he is probably the USA's best chance at a gold medal. Really this is the easiest division to call. Robson is an innovator, but he is too old. I really like both Hall and Glover, but they are not in Rafa's league. I think Rafa will win again.

-76.9
Marcelo or Claudio Calasans or Gus Mendes will win. They are three of the best grapplers in any weight class. It is good to see Gunnar Nelson out there, but Marcelo and Claudio are on top of thier games right now. Calasans is also an international wrestler and very good judoka. I think Calasans will pull off a minor upset. Also Kron (Rickson's son) will be fun, but he doesn't have enough IMO.

-87.9
Galvao is the favorite, but I don't think he will get it done. He has always been sort of hot and cold, and he eeked out a couple of matches in 2009. He barely got by Weidman in 2009, but Vinny Magalhaes his a flying armbar on him to submit him (of course, Galvao beat Vinny). Word on Palhares is that he can submit anyone, and that he submits world champions in the gym. He last competed as a purple belt and he subbed Romulo Barral in that tourney. Barral is a stud and a top tier guy. If Palhares competes, he could surprise some people and win a very deep division. Moraes, Barral, Popovitch, Lovato... that division is stacked. Any one of those guys could win that division.

-98.9
Xande and Rodolfo have to be the favorites. Drysdale ahs won it before, he could win. Roger won't compete... if he did, he would be the favorite. Antonio Peinado has all the buzz right now... he could be that guy that just comes out of nowhere. He has not competed much, but there is a video of him rolling with Marcelo and doing very well, actually kind of kicking his ass-- that is what his invite is based off. So he could surprise some guys. Everyone wants to see Rodolfo and Roger. Assis could win too. This division is stacked. If Roger shows up, that division is going to be nuts. Xande is the one guy that has put Roger in trouble and damn near subbed him with a triangle. It is between Xande, Assis, and Viera. Rodolfo is not as good without the gi according to some, but he is only like 21, so I think he has a steep learning curve. I will take Rodolfo to win, but I think Peinado will be on the stand, he may even win. I have never heard of the guy, but no one handles Marcelo like he did.

+99
Bastos or Werdum should win that. Magalhaes coming up in weight, he could surprise some people.


Superfight is Braulio vs. Jacare. Tough match to call, I will say Braulio.


Absolute, I will take Rodolfo Viera to win it all if Roger doesn't show up. If Roger is there, I will take Roger to win.


But all this is just pissing in the wind, there will be no lines.

[Vandelay]

I dont know. we've seen crazier events have lines (wrestlemania), small promotions such as king of the cage, tachi fights, etc. but those are usually on the weekends where no ufc or strikeforce fights occur and the adcc is on the weekend of ufc 135.

Is this gi or no gi

[poopoo333]

I remember odds being given for this.

Googled it and found this discussion

http://www.efnsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7338.0

[Vandelay]

nice work poopoo.

mendes won the uder 66kg at plus 1200

pop won the under 77 at plus 750

estima won the under 88 at plus 200

riberio won the under 99 at plus 275

werdum won the over 99 at plus 250

Now this says bookmaker tho. I wonder if 5dimes had lines

[poopoo333]

They didn't. I remember it...I am pretty sure it was bookmaker and bodog.

[Svino]

Is this gi or no gi

ADCC is no gi.

[MMA_scientist]

I did not know that. That is awesome. My year will be made on this event. Got to go fund BM.

[MMA_scientist]

There is a 40 page thread about this in f12 fwiw.

[MMA_scientist]

I should also mention that ADCC has a habit of announcing matchups without having ever spoken to the competitors. They do this constantly. By the time the event rolls around, the list will look completely different. Even since you posted this list, Gregor Gracie is out and Victor Estima (Braulio's brother) is in. I have my doubt about half of these guys even showing up.

[edman5555]

vagner rocha is the north american trials winner.

[MMA_scientist]

vagner rocha is the north american trials winner.

It is not as bog a deal as you might think. He is not going to win.

[edman5555]

well i was thinking that must put him worlds ahead of the mckenzetine.

[MMA_scientist]

well i was thinking that must put him worlds ahead of the mckenzetine.

Yeah, you would think. I said in that thread that I will be on Rocha because of that reason.

[Luke]

Everyone in this thread..............negged

[Vandelay]

From Roger on BE. Sounds like hes committed to mma which is nice.

"I won't fight the ADCC. I had in mind maybe I wasn't fighting it, because every time I fought World before fighting MMA I didn't feel good, I didn't feel like my body and mind were 100%. It's too close to risk it. I'm upset about it, but my priority has changed, I'm closer to MMA and leaving Jiu-Jitsu aside a little. In my mind I still want to fight the World, but it's once a year, and I don't mind the rest that much.

"I couldn't do what I have trained to do back then. I believed in my jab and he (King Mo) wasn't bringing much danger," he said. "When I heard Renzo (Gracie) saying there was a minute and a half left for the end of the first round, I relaxed. I didn't have enough time to submit him nor take him down, he wasn't punching me, so I thought I would keep it that way until the second round. That was the first mistake. The second was that he accidentally hit his head against mine, and I got dizzy. I moved backwards, he punched me and I felt. That head was practically an accidental knockout. When I tried to grab him, clinch, his head hit my face and I backed off.

"I was supposed to work on the clinch, because I wouldn't risk trying to grab his legs and take him down because it wasn't the beginning of the fight, so I wasn't using much energy with no purpose. I was supposed to work on the clinch and take him down. And during the first round I didn't try to do that, and suddenly I realized the danger he was putting me in. Losing is terrible. Nobody likes losing, especially being knocked out. But what can I do? I'll train so it won't happen again".

And Jacare

Former Strikeforce middleweight champion, Ronaldo Jacare will be in Nottingham, England, on September 24 and 25 to compete at ADCC's super fight, against Abu Dhabi champion Braulio Estima.

The BJJ ace lost his Strikeforce middleweight title last weekend after a 25 minute war against Luke Rockhold, but guaranteed the fans he'll still fight at ADCC. "Let's move on, let's keep our head up. Now it's submission time, get ready for me Braulio", Jacare said on his Twitter.

[MMA_scientist]

I am actually glad to hear both things. I knew that is what Roger would do. I am kind of surprised Jacare is going to compete, but that is awesome. I really want to see Braulio and Jacare go at it. The first 5 minutes should be wild (the first 5 minutes are not scored to encourage guys to go for the finish).

I have never been a big Jacare fan, just because he was Roger's rival and I always pulled for Roger... but I really do like his attitude. He seems like a guy that is always in a good mood.