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[Ludo]

Well BJ has always had terrible cardio by most standards. For a 155lb fighter he should be able to go much longer. There is a reason he used to be called "the best first round fighter in the world" early in his career. He wouldn't need sean sherk like cardio, but his stamina was among the worst in the division, or in welterweight for that matter. If he had the cardio to hang for the second and or third rounds I think he would have beaten Nick based on the first round and the way he was slipping punches and had Nick stepping back after he got tagged.

[sbjj]

http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision.jsp?id=2672

Looks like only one site had it judged in favor of Bocek, probably based on submission attempts that failed hard and left Mark in terrible positions. Everyone else had it either 30-27 or 30-28. Given that I guess you could say Bocek did better than anyone else against Bendo in the UFC but it's not saying much.

What do you mean it is not saying much? He did better than both Miller and Guida. That would be like saying if someone did better against Jones than Shogun and Jackson that would mean nothing. I actually can not believe you even typed that nonsense. So Bocek having a better showing against Miller(a guy he also beat) and Guida does not say much? Get the F out. It says a whole lot when you are looking for a future bet on a guy(Bocek) who is a whole lot better than his record shows. That is the kinda stuff you have to look for. The dude is probably going to be close to even against F'n Lentz.

[poopoo333]

All in on Bocek over Lentz?

[Thewisemann]

Maybe

[MMA_scientist]

Lentz is the new Tyson Griffin. No matter how good or how bad his opponent is, Lentz will fight to their level and make it close. I think Oliveira blew him out though didn't he?

[sbjj]

Yea, Oliveira beat him bad. Lowe was easily beating him before he was caught in the third. And Griffin beat him but was robbed by the judges. I think Lentz has been very lucky in the UFC.

[MMA_scientist]

Well Bocek should be the best mat grappler Lentz has faced yet, but I think Bocek is more of a top oriented guy. They will probably both come to grapple... It will probably be a lot of up and down since Lentz doesn't play guard much either. Bocek's takedowns are pretty good though. I agree Bocek should win, but I wouldn't be super shocked to see Lentz win another decision by wearing him down and getting more takedowns. I think it will be pretty fun to watch and will be somewhat close. Lentz actually has the better wins, but I never realized that Bocek was such a finisher... guy has won almost every fight by submission. Although he doesn't have any real impressive wins, he only has one bad loss (Danzig). I think that was something of a fluke catch though. Bocek will probably win a decision or possible catch him in a submission. IMO Bocek is good up to -150 or so, I wouldn't go over that personally. Lentz is like Tebow, he finds a way.

[SPX]

. . . he only has one bad loss (Danzig). I think that was something of a fluke catch though.

Bocek himself has said that he was just exhausted in that fight after the first round. In fact, he changed up his training after that so he could improve his cardio and learn to cut weight better.

[Ludo]

What do you mean it is not saying much? He did better than both Miller and Guida. That would be like saying if someone did better against Jones than Shogun and Jackson that would mean nothing. I actually can not believe you even typed that nonsense. So Bocek having a better showing against Miller(a guy he also beat) and Guida does not say much? Get the F out. It says a whole lot when you are looking for a future bet on a guy(Bocek) who is a whole lot better than his record shows. That is the kinda stuff you have to look for. The dude is probably going to be close to even against F'n Lentz.

Why you mad tho?

The question had nothing to do with Miller or Guida. It had to do with how "well" Bocek did against Bendo which is fairly consistent with how both Guida and Miller did against Bendo. Not very well at all. If you call 30-27 decision losses in which all three parties got outmuscled, out struck, and all around beat up doing "well" then I don't know what to tell you. You have to look at those fights too in betting. Nobody said he couldn't beat Lentz or that he couldn't beat other people or that he's better than the fight with Bendo showed, the subject was how he did against Ben Henderson. Why are you going all left field when it was your post that started the subject matter to begin with?

[poopoo333]

Reported for discussing this fight in the wrong thread.

[Ludo]

Reported for discussing this fight in the wrong thread.

Fuck yo couch, nigga!

[sbjj]

Reported for discussing this fight in the wrong thread.

Spot on. I should have never have brought up Bocek.

[poopoo333]

Ludo....when I get home in like 30 min let's play madden

[Ludo]

Sounds good to Me, mang.

[SPX]

I'm trying to convince Luke to get a PS3 so we can do shit like that.

[Ludo]

I'm trying to convince Luke to get a PS3 so we can do shit like that.

Get an Xbox 360, you can get in on these games on Live.

[SPX]

After just spending almost $400 on game shit it will probably be a while before that ever happens. But I do appreciate the thought.

[Mr. IWS]

Get an Xbox 360, you can get in on these games on Live.

I will fuck you gays up on Xbox

[poopoo333]

I'm trying to convince Luke to get a PS3 so we can do shit like that.

I got one now, letz do dis

[poopoo333]

I will fuck you gays up on Xbox

Hit me up @ GawthicHawtDawg. Zak, you absolutely suck. UFC undisputed 2010. Best of 17. I win, you step down from administrator and promote me. You win, I leave IWS forever.