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    I agree with Luke on researching and waiting. That seems to be the best policy but spx is also correct about vitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    huh?
    I think he means that a lot of the guys who end up around -500 or worse start out at -365 or better and then quickly travel in that direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    I think he means that a lot of the guys who end up around -500 or worse start out at -365 or better and then quickly travel in that direction.
    yep. thats whats im saying. its not often to see a huge fav's line get worse and then get back to the original opening line. i too think belfort line will only get worse but i havent bet him yet. the other books have him at -270 while bmaker has him at -345? shiet

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    Rashad Evans vs Jon Jones - 5 rounds - UFC 145 propositions
    Sat 4/21 1003 Evans/Jones goes 5 round distance +170
    9:00PM 1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance -230

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    Word on the street is that Stephen Thompson vs Matt Brown has been added to this card.

    I hope to get Thompson at good odds.
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    Thompson probably gets worked in that fight.
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    Why?

    It's not like Brown is a great striker OR a great grappler.
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    He is vastly more experienced though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Why?

    It's not like Brown is a great striker OR a great grappler.
    No, but he is the classic representation of the kind of fighter who beats fighters like Stephen. Thompson as we saw is a side stance straight up TMA-er. Anyone with a decent clinch or single may very well fuck his world up. Brown is a pure grinder, he's going to make this ugly, which was something Stephen's last opponent was unable to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo View Post
    Anyone with a decent clinch or single may very well fuck his world up.
    They keyword there is MAY. That's speculation. We really don't know much about Thompson's grappling. We DO know that he is a black belt in a form of jiu-jitsu that at least claims to be 50% groundwork and that his brother-in-law is Carlos Machado. Personally, I think that it will probably take a grappler other than I-get-subbed-every-time-the-fight-hits-the-ground Matt Brown to exploit whatever weakness may be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edman5555 View Post
    He is vastly more experienced though.
    Only in MMA. Thompson is a far more experienced fighter as a whole.
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    I'll also point out that Brown is 13-11 overall. Granted, he's fought some good comp and everyone who beat him is pretty good.

    But on the flipside of that, who is his best win? John Howard, I guess. Then who? James Wilks? Matt Arroyo? Pete Sell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    I'll also point out that Brown is 13-11 overall. Granted, he's fought some good comp and everyone who beat him is pretty good.

    But on the flipside of that, who is his best win? John Howard, I guess. Then who? James Wilks? Matt Arroyo? Pete Sell?
    Would you put Thompson on par with any of those guys, though?
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    thompson is really new to the game though. He only has 6 mma fights as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo View Post
    Would you put Thompson on par with any of those guys, though?
    The problem is that Thompson is a wildcard. We just don't know. But he's been doing well so far and most regard him as a serious prospect. I'll at least say that I have little doubt that Thompson would put Pete Sell in a bodybag. I also would favor him against Wilks, Arroyo, and maybe Howard.


    Quote Originally Posted by edman5555 View Post
    thompson is really new to the game though. He only has 6 mma fights as far as I know.
    And Chris Weidman only had 4 fights when he got to the UFC. John Makdessi only had 7 fights. And they both came in and beat mid-tier guys like Brown.
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    Matt Brown is going to go buckwild on the karate fag. He'll make it dirty and straight dig in dat ass.
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    My Prediction:

    Thompson's footwork and movement is so good that Brown can barely even touch him. 30-27 for Thompson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    My Prediction:

    Thompson's footwork and movement is so good that Brown can barely even touch him. 30-27 for Thompson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo View Post
    Sig bet?
    That it's a 30-27 or just that Thompson wins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    That it's a 30-27 or just that Thompson wins?
    Let's just go pick'em on it. If Thompson wins you pick My sig for a week, if Brown wins I pick yours for a week. Deal?
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