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[edman5555]

I would take a stab on Beltran if Te Huna had a steep line like that. Would love to get Carmont under -200. Dillashaw will have a steep line unfortunately...hoping it does not open at -400

I don't think Dillashaw will have a steep line. Lee has done better in the UFC as far as most people will be concerned. He tapped out Yamamoto and lost a split decision to a guy who is 3 and 1 in the ufc with one loss coming via split D to mike mcdonald. I would think Dillashaw would come in as a dog.

[edman5555]

I think Te Huna beats Beltran by being more well rounded. I will say it could be interesting seeing Beltran at 205 though.

Craig/Natal : No idea in this one. Craig is pretty big and I think he only beat Noke because Noke injured himself during the fight/gassed. Something was up with Noke in that one. Maybe he had an injury coming in.

Caceres/Page: Caceres has done better than I thought he would. I really can't remember any of Page's fights to be honest. By looking at his record I would think he can beat Caceres.

Sherdogs website officially sucks BTW. It always takes forever to load.

[SPX]

Page has looked pretty poor lately. I actually favor Caceres and hope he comes in as a dog. (I actually think he will be the fave, though.)

[Vandelay]

I would think Dillashaw would come in as a dog.

Thats just not happening.

[poopoo333]

Yeah Dillashaw won't and probably shouldn't even be in the -200s in this fight imo

[mike]

i made a bet on munoz a while back and regret it . will try to make a bigger bet on weidman to cover munoz bet via live betting >.<

[poopoo333]

This card is this Wednesday and we only have one line. That sucks. Going to be missing a chunk of this card as well since I work until 9.

And why is Beltran/Te Huna the co-main event when Rafael Dos Anjos and Anthony Njokuani are fighting on the card?

[edman5555]

Weidman over Munoz? What evidence makes that argument?

[poopoo333]

I contacted 5 dimes, they said the lines for this card will be up tonight. Hopefully they are the first to break them, they release some nice lines sometimes. Maybe they will give Carmont as the dog

[poopoo333]

Weidman over Munoz? What evidence makes that argument?

I think Weidman is a better all around grappler than Munoz. Munoz's only way to win this fight imo is to throw those big filipinobombs of fists he has and connect flush a few times to drop Weidman. Don't think Munoz can get Weidman down. I think Weidman can get Munoz down. I don't think Munoz can submit Weidman from his back. I think Weidman can submit Munoz in a scramble.

[Ludo]

Weidman over Munoz? What evidence makes that argument?

Yushin Okami.

[poopoo333]

Yushin Okami.

Fuck. Even Chris Leben was able to take him down.

[MMA_scientist]

Munoz is the man. Weidman may get him down, he won't be able to keep him there. Munoz has a solid grappling game, he is not going to get subbed. Munoz has the donkey kong fists of doom, Weidman has teh technique. Close fight IMO.

[edman5555]

Dont forget munoz has the experince advantage.

[poopoo333]

Dont forget munoz has the experince advantage.

How often does that really matter though?

[SPX]

How often does that really matter though?

Well we do see a lot of instances where a fast rising prospect meets a veteran and gets beaten. Then that prospect takes a couple of years to further learn and develop and comes back to easily beat that same guy.

I think that Hughes/GSP I was a good example of a fighter almost there, but still not QUITE ready to beat the champ.

[mike]

i think munoz striking is very basic and a bit overrated. not sure if he can last 5 rounds in a high pace fight too. weidman is less experienced but i think hes the better striker.

[MMA_scientist]

Probably going to come down to scoring a few takedowns for either guy, unless Munoz catches him with a power shot.

[edman5555]

I forgot that this is five rounds. Munoz could get tired..he also has more time to land a big punch.

[Vandelay]

I contacted 5 dimes, they said the lines for this card will be up tonight.:

I think they lied.