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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    . . . although he will probably get KO'd when Roger pulls guard.
    BOL! Yes, sadly. . .
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    Tim Kennedy vs Luke Rockhold - 5 rounds - Strikeforce propositions
    Sat 7/14 2003 Kennedy/ Rockhold goes 5 round distance +180
    11:30PM 2004 Fight won't go 5 round distance -260
    Tyson Woodley vs Nate Marquardt - 5 rounds - Strikeforce propositions
    Sat 7/14 2103 Woodley/Marquardt goes 5 round distance -180
    11:00PM 2104 Fight won't go 5 round distance +140

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    Tim Kennedy vs Luke Rockhold - 5 rounds - Strikeforce propositions
    Sat 7/14 2003 Kennedy/ Rockhold goes 5 round distance +180
    11:30PM 2004 Fight won't go 5 round distance -260
    Tyson Woodley vs Nate Marquardt - 5 rounds - Strikeforce propositions
    Sat 7/14 2103 Woodley/Marquardt goes 5 round distance -180
    11:00PM 2104 Fight won't go 5 round distance +140
    Shouldn't those be reversed?
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    No, those are the lines.

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    I was kind of thinking the same thing. I actually think Marquardt will probably finish Woodley since he has 5 rounds to do it.
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    Tough fight to call...I am starting to slightly lean Woodley but it is a 5 rounder and Woodley has some shit cardio.


    I actually think Rockhold/Kennedy goes distance @ +180 is a good deal.

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    The real question for Marquardt here is whether or not he can perform at the same level at WW that he did at MW. If he can, then I actually think he will win decisively. But we just don't know what WW Marquardt is going to look like.
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    Yeah, in this fight we have:

    WW Marquardt
    Ring Rust Marquardt
    No PED Marquardt (maybe)
    Demoted Marquardt

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    Yes, and I still think that all those Marquardts combined should still be able to beat Woodley.
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    How much are you gonna have on Marquardt? You seem to favor him a bit and he is close to even.

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    I put enough on him to win a unit. That's as big as I'm going because there are a lot of uncertainties here.

    Woodley to me always looks like he's about to lose before he wins. Even a lot of his UD wins looked like if his opponents had had another couple of rounds then they probably could've stolen it.

    Marquardt is a serious veteran with good striking, underrated wrestling and a long history of submission fighting. Woodley hasn't fought anyone at his level yet.
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    maybe u guys should wait til the weigh in or wait to use the live betting on the marquart fight. its much better to see how marquart look in the first round since we have no idea what kind of fight he shows up

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    ^^I agree... I think Marquardt will look fine though. He made weight when he got busted for testosterone. He was 170 and there was a video on it..his cut went great. I think Woodley by decision would be the play if you are going to play Woodley. Very tough fight to call though...although the way I like to pick my bets based on style match ups...Woodley is probably going to be my play.

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    I'm not touching Marquardt until I see him fight at least once at 170. He was a giant middleweight as it was, how exactly he got to 170 is a mystery to Me really. Woodley doesn't have the kind of wrestling that typically fucked Marquardt up in the past, but we haven't seen him cut down this far yet and fight. For all we know he might have a terrible cut and gas after the first few minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike View Post
    maybe u guys should wait til the weigh in or wait to use the live betting on the marquart fight. its much better to see how marquart look in the first round since we have no idea what kind of fight he shows up
    That's an option, but it's always a risky play. If Marquardt comes out and dominates the first round then his line is going to go through the roof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo View Post
    I'm not touching Marquardt until I see him fight at least once at 170. He was a giant middleweight as it was, how exactly he got to 170 is a mystery to Me really.
    He was noticeably smaller for the Dan Miller fight so I think he was already starting to cut down even then. At first I was also questioning how he was going to get to 170, but during that fight I realized he was just going to let some muscle atrophy.

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    Woodley doesn't have the kind of wrestling that typically fucked Marquardt up in the past. . .
    Those are my thoughts, too. Woodley's no Sonnen.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo View Post
    For all we know he might have a terrible cut and gas after the first few minutes.
    That's my primary concern.
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    Oh another thing...when does MarChokeArdt win in big fights?

    I honestly think he is a bit overrated (still top 10) since he did that Mortal Kombat combination on Wilson Gouevia. His best wins are against K1 Maia and Jerry's Kids Palhares.

    The problem with this fight is we do not know how Marquardt will do against a good wrestler at WW. Against Sonnen @ MW...he died..but Sonnen is good at what he does and is big/explosive/strong/relentless. Okami was just big and was able to get top control and steal close rounds.


    Fuck it.

    Flip a coin.

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    We're just going to have to wait and see.

    I have Showtime now though, so I will finally get to watch Strikeforce in all its HD glory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post


    I actually think Rockhold/Kennedy goes distance @ +180 is a good deal.

    Went ahead and bet it...but there is a $100 limit. Why does 5d limit somewhat new prop bets to $100 when they are + odds, but let players lay thousands of dollars on the favorite side?

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    ..after I typed that it allowed me to add more. Sweet.

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