1. I'm not as confident as the oddsmakers are that Oliveira is going to blow through Swanson.
2. I'm tempted to bet Dunham at -200.
3. If Igor hits -200 I'll probably bet him.
4. Noke seems like he might be worth a dog bet.
5. Anyone got a breakdown on Pierson/Benoist?
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1. I think Swanson has a very legit shot at winning. I will be betting him.Originally Posted by SPX
2. I really think Grant will keep it close. It's going to be a pretty competitive fight imo, Grant has looked great at LW. However, I think Dunham will be able to steal rounds with takedowns of his own. He is a better wrestler (in MMA) then Shane Roller and I feel Dunham will be able to get the decision win in a competitive fight. I can get his at -185 right now, but I'm going to wait to see if it gets better.
3. I really think Igor wins, but I am really surprised he is such a big favorite. I was hoping the public would back Vinny and the line would be good for Igor.
4. I don't think so..I like Brenneman in this one. I don't want to bet him straight, I might parlay him.
5. I didn't look at this fight when I broke this whole card down, but based on memory I think Benoist will have a slight advantage.
1. I think Oliviera wins by submission, but I am not as confident as the oddsmakers either. I don't think Swanson wins though.
2. Agreed, Dunham is tempting. He should have the edge everywhere, I think Grant will keep it close, but Dunham will just be a little better everywhere.
3. I don't even think about betting favorites where the dog has a huge edge in one area. I think Igor will win, but would not be surprised to see Vinny sub him.
4. Brenneman or bust.
5. Who?
2012: +19.33
2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
The only fight of Grant's that really comes to mind for me is against Carlo Prater and I wasn't particularly impressed. I think Dunham will either outwrestle him or just keep it on the feet and outstrike him.
I can't say I'm particularly shocked. For one, the impression most people Stateside probably have of Vinny is that "he's that guy that got murdered by Bader and lost a decision to Eliot Marshall." I doubt many beyond the hardest of the hard cores have seen any of his M-1 fights.
Igor's been doing pretty good. I really expect him to win this. My one concern, of course, is that he gets caught in a sub.
Pierson seems like he may be one of those dark horses. Sure, he came up short against DHK and Ellenberger, but he pretty much walked through Riddle and Hecht. He might be one of those guys who will lose to the upper echelon but beat most everyone else.
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I dunno. In 33 fights Igor's only lost once by submission and that was five years ago. Granted, he hasn't really been fighting any submission machines--at least not in the UFC--but I actually wouldn't be surprised if Vinny can't even get him down. In fact, I kind of expect Igor to finish him.
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Yeah, I kind of expect Vinny to get stuffed on takedowns, and try to pull guard and get pounded out. But I would not be shocked to see the ADCC HW champion submit Igor (or anyone, he pretty much always has that out).
2012: +19.33
2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
I'm probably going to bet Grant actually.
And as for Vinny..he looked like shit in M1 too. He is gonna lose
I admit that I'm tempted to bet some of these guys at less-than-ideal lines just because it's been so long.
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Well you are going to lose bitch.
Yep, Vinny is a can, he doesn't belong... I am just always leery of betting a favorite when the other guy has a clear out.
2012: +19.33
2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
I am back to not caring, I am actually thinking about cashing out. I probably won't even watch, which is telling because some of these guys are fighters I really like watching like Oliveira and Dunham and of course Vitor/Jones.
2012: +19.33
2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
i had 2u on Grant and 3u on Baczynski. Dunham's striking is pretty much his sneaking straight left and thats it. i think Grant will best him on the feet and hopefully able to stop Dunhams td. i think Benoist will win a close dec but waiting for better odd on him.
I was actually just about to ask if you were going to really bet something this time or if you're going to be a bitch. I see the answer is: Bitch.
Luke said he also doesn't care. Fuck y'all. We haven't had any real MMA in 3 weeks. That's like a century with today's schedule. This is important.
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I haven't watched an mma event in months. If you recall I have skipped the last few. I do recall watching something though... I just can't muster up any caring. I think I am permanently over MMA. I am going to become a casual fan... maybe watch a fight a year or something. I want to care, I just don't.
I primarily want to care for money making purposes, because any true passion has left me.
2012: +19.33
2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
You give up too easily. Sometimes you have to choose to care.
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Scientist, you're a pussy. You are the one that really got me into this/to join IWS.
Mike..the thing keeping me away from Benoist is his gas tank. He has the skills to beat Pierson, but his cardio is pretty bad...and taking this fight on short notice does not help.
and now you are up 40u (what is that, like $100), and a steadfast mod on IWS.
I can't help it that I am having a midlife crisis... I will try harder. I am going to choose to care and see how it goes (fake it until I make it theory).
2012: +19.33
2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
one unit=40 dollars bro
When I started IWS, it was $6. Come at me bro
Matt Hamill vs Roger Hollett - 3 rounds - UFC 152 propositions Sat 9/22 1303 Hollett/Hamill goes 3 round distance +145 10:00PM 1304 Fight won't go 3 round distance -185 Cub Swanson vs Charles Oliveira - 3 rounds - UFC 152 propositions Sat 9/22 1403 Swanson/Oliveira goes 3 round distance +185 9:30PM 1404 Fight won't go 3 round distance -265 Vinny Magalhães vs Igor Pokrajac - 3 rounds - UFC 152 propositions Sat 9/22 1503 Magalhães/Pokrajac goes 3 round distance +195 9:00PM 1504 Fight won't go 3 round distance -275 TJ Grant vs Evan Dunham - 3 rounds - UFC 152 propositions Sat 9/22 1603 Grant/Dunham goes 3 round distance -190 8:30PM 1604 Fight won't go 3 round distance +150 Sean Pierson vs Lance Benoist - 3 rounds - UFC 152 propositions Sat 9/22 1703 Pierson/Benoist goes 3 round distance -185 8:00PM 1704 Fight won't go 3 round distance +145 Marcus Brimage vs Jimy Hettes - 3 rounds - UFC 152 propositions Sat 9/22 1803 Brimage/Hettes goes 3 round distance +160 7:30PM 1804 Fight won't go 3 round distance -210 UFC 152 - Belfort/Jones & Johnson/Benavidez - which fight ends sooner both fights have same exact distance is a push Sat 9/22 9001 Belfort/Jones less seconds fought -1500 11:00PM 9002 Johnson/Benavidez less seconds fought +700 Belfort/Jones fight lasts less seconds than Johnson/Benavidez Sat 9/22 9003 Belfort/Jones less seconds fought -540 11:00PM 9004 Any other result / both go distance +390 Johnson/Benavidez fight lasts less seconds than Belfort/Jones Sat 9/22 9005 Johnson/Benavidez less seconds fought +888 11:00PM 9006 Any other result / both go distance -1586 total seconds faught in each fight Sat 9/22 9007 Both fights are same duration +630 11:00PM 9008 Fights end in different duration -1125
I think I may pull the trigger on Bones, not stann and not mighty mouse by sub. Comes out to -407
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