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    ^^ I never did it that way. I have always thought it was a pretty inexact science. I generally just go with whether I have confidence that they guy will win, and if I am willing to pay the price. It is really the same thing as setting a line and comparing to the existing line, just less exact. I do think it is helpful to have that knowledge, but I have never really felt that anyone could accurately set a winning percentage.
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    Yeah, I don't set percentages or anything. I basically just bet bigger on lines I think are way off and if I am in confident in that side to begin with. For example, Daniel Cormier/Josh Barnett. I thought Cormier should have been around -200 and he was at + odds so I put 10 units down on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    Yeah, I don't set percentages or anything. I basically just bet bigger on lines I think are way off and if I am in confident in that side to begin with. For example, Daniel Cormier/Josh Barnett. I thought Cormier should have been around -200 and he was at + odds so I put 10 units down on it
    Yes, but even then, at least implicitly, by saying the line is "way off" or that a fighter should be "around -200" still refers to percentages. After all, the line itself has no other meaning.
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    i never do the percentage thing and convert it to a line. its how confidence i am on certain fighter to win the fight and how steep the line on him is then decide how much i want to bet. though i never bet on a guy with great odds if i dont think he has at least 1 clear way to win. But i think Stan will edge Bisping standing and Bisping is going to have to take stan down to beat him. Bisping td is overrated tho, imo. From what i remember, he usually able to get guys down after they starting to gas. otherwise, his td isnt that good. I think stan beats him.

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    In my opinion, Bisping is the better striker as well as a better grappler..I really think Stann's actual kickboxing ability is very overrated

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Speaking of setting a percentage for each fight and then converting that into a moneyline, does anyone really do that anymore?
    That's what I do for the main card fights (or matches where I feel pretty confident in my memory of both fighters).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike View Post
    i never do the percentage thing and convert it to a line. its how confidence i am on certain fighter to win the fight and how steep the line on him is then decide how much i want to bet. though i never bet on a guy with great odds if i dont think he has at least 1 clear way to win. But i think Stan will edge Bisping standing and Bisping is going to have to take stan down to beat him. Bisping td is overrated tho, imo. From what i remember, he usually able to get guys down after they starting to gas. otherwise, his td isnt that good. I think stan beats him.
    I gotta be honest, I dont even know how to do the percentage thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. IWS View Post
    I gotta be honest, I dont even know how to do the percentage thing.
    Probably Svino is the only one here that actually does the math. I just use a calculator on the internet. But for me it is more clear to think in terms of odds... like rather than -200, I think 2:1... But everything everyone is describing is really just lazily converting it and deciding if it is accurate. Saying "I just think about my confidence on fighter and how steep the line on him is then decide if it is worth it" is the exact same thing, just less precise. That said, that's pretty much what I do too.
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    I think the time you really need to be careful about percentages is when combining multiple bets on one fight, so you can add percentages together and see what total odds you are effectively betting.

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    Demetrious Johnson vs Joseph Benavidez - 5 rounds - UFC 152 propositions
    Sat 9/22 1003 Johnson/Benavidez goes 5 round distance -300
    10:30PM 1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance +220
    Sat 9/22 1005 Johnson wins inside distance +1170
    10:30PM 1006 Not Johnson inside distance -2510
    Sat 9/22 1007 Johnson wins by 5 round decision +310
    10:30PM 1008 Not Johnson by 5 round decision -430
    Sat 9/22 1009 Benavidez wins inside distance +282
    10:30PM 1010 Not Benavidez inside distance -402
    Sat 9/22 1011 Benavidez wins by 5 round decision -120
    10:30PM 1012 Not Benavidez by 5 round decision -120
    Sat 9/22 1013 Johnson/Benavidez draw +6000
    10:30PM 1014 Fight not a draw -15000
    Brian Stann vs Michael Bisping - 3 rounds - UFC 152 propositions
    Sat 9/22 1103 Stann/Bisping goes 3 round distance -145
    10:30PM 1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance +105

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    Vladdy Matyushenko Steps in to Face Matt Hamill at UFC 152
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_scientist View Post
    Probably Svino is the only one here that actually does the math. I just use a calculator on the internet. But for me it is more clear to think in terms of odds... like rather than -200, I think 2:1... But everything everyone is describing is really just lazily converting it and deciding if it is accurate. Saying "I just think about my confidence on fighter and how steep the line on him is then decide if it is worth it" is the exact same thing, just less precise. That said, that's pretty much what I do too.
    I never do it. To me it almost doesn't matter how you look at it. I know what -200 pays out and I can estimate a fighters probability of winning and compare the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    Vladdy Matyushenko Steps in to Face Matt Hamill at UFC 152....

    What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    What?
    Lmfao

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    Vladdy/Hamill is going to be one boring ass fight.

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    Wow, Jones under -500?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Wow, Jones under -500?
    Yeah..surprised. He is going to win and I want to bet it.

    But after today, I hope the Karate Kid gets teh fastest KO in UFC history

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    Luke, we may as well put our new BetDSI bankroll as well as our $500 free play bank roll on Jones here.

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    Well, I just put 7.5 units on Jones @-475.

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