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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Flukey? He lost twice to Brown. What elite talent is at 135? I see one guy, Barao. Besides that you have Cruz....a gimp...and Faber....a past his prime former champ.
    The first win was as legit as Serra's win over GSP. So sure, it was legit. But it's also the kind of thing you don't expect to happen twice.

    The second win was totally due to him breaking his hands. He stayed amazingly competitive with elbows alone.

    Healthy Faber > Healthy Brown

    And what's this shit about Cruz being a gimp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by edman5555 View Post
    Am I the only one that thinks faber has looked good recently?
    No. He's looked great. Finished Mizugaki, Jorgensen and Menjivar. Dominated Alcantara. Fucking crushed Bowles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    The first win was as legit as Serra's win over GSP. So sure, it was legit. But it's also the kind of thing you don't expect to happen twice.

    The second win was totally due to him breaking his hands. He stayed amazingly competitive with elbows alone.

    Healthy Faber > Healthy Brown

    And what's this shit about Cruz being a gimp?

    Never in my life have I heard someone say TWO wins were flukey and still insist one fighter is better than someone who beat them twice. Wow , X .

    I suppose Chael is really better than Silva also. The first win was a fluke because Sonnen dominated the first four rounds and the second fight was a fluke because Chael got hit with an illegal knee.

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    If they fought today, would you bet Brown over Faber?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    If they fought today, would you bet Brown over Faber?
    You need to realize Luke doesn't bet on midgets. And that's not even me trying to be funny. He would say the exact same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    You need to realize Luke doesn't bet on midgets. And that's not even me trying to be funny. He would say the exact same thing.
    I know he's bet Barao before.

    Besides, he said "Now Faber can't beat Brown." So I just have to know if that means he'd bet Brown if they fought again today. I assume that it does. I also am pretty damn sure he'd lose that bet.
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    Fast 7 set pics. Fucking awesome that Kurt Russel's going to be in this shit.

    http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/vin-d...ics-slideshow/
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    You know, I've seen this guy on the World Series of Poker before so it really seems like if you have the skills to win a shitload of money gambling legitimately you wouldn't risk everything by cheating:

    http://sdgln.com/news/2013/09/27/gre...-barona-casino
    Last edited by SPX; 09-27-2013 at 02:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    I know he's bet Barao before.

    Besides, he said "Now Faber can't beat Brown." So I just have to know if that means he'd bet Brown if they fought again today. I assume that it does. I also am pretty damn sure he'd lose that bet.
    The thing with Faber is that he just isn't a good striker. Flat out, he isn't that great. He might be getting better now that he has Duane Bang Ludwig but I don't know how good he will become. That considered, if he gets you to the ground he will either hold you there or submit you. This applies to the vast majority of the fighters in the division. BTW I thought Faber beat Cruz the last time they fought. I would take Faber over Brown as well. My guess is Mike Brown was able to beat Faber because he was the first guy that could stop his takedowns.
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    I think that rematch with Brown would've gone differently if Faber hadn't broken both of his hands.
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    Faber breaking his hands is probably a result of very bad striking technique.
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    Yeah, that's probably it. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Yeah, that's probably it. . .
    What else would it be? I could see breaking one hand but two hands? It has to be an issue with his striking.
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    That was Faber's 23rd fight in his career and nothing like that had happened before. You won't catch me saying that Faber is a GREAT striker, but he's not a bad striker either. I'm also pretty sure he trained for a period of time at Fairtex in Thailand.

    It was weird, but hands get broken in MMA. It just so happens he broke both of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    I know he's bet Barao before.

    Besides, he said "Now Faber can't beat Brown." So I just have to know if that means he'd bet Brown if they fought again today. I assume that it does. I also am pretty damn sure he'd lose that bet.
    Where did I say Brown would beat Faber now you twit? Brown is damn near 40 years old now. What happened 4 years ago has no bearing on today. Faber fought Brown twice. Faber lost twice . Those are the facts, so you saying Faber was better that Brown is just stupid.










    And poopoo's right, I rarely bet on anything under 170lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    I think that rematch with Brown would've gone differently if Faber hadn't broken both of his hands.

    Yeah, Faber would have probably been knocked out again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Where did I say Brown would beat Faber now you twit?
    Nigga, you're memory is worse than I thought. You need to see a doctor.

    http://www.investwithsports.com/newf...l=1#post398919
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Nigga, you're memory is worse than I thought. You need to see a doctor.

    http://www.investwithsports.com/newf...l=1#post398919

    I didnt mean now literally . I meant he was a champ for years and then got beat by all those guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    I didnt mean now literally . I meant he was a champ for years and then got beat by all those guys
    Strength of competition got better. That doesn't mean Faber's not still a great fighter or that the 135 lb division is not strong today.

    But if you remember, we were talking about veterans who are still able to perform at the highest levels of the sport. Faber is one of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    You know, I've seen this guy on the World Series of Poker before so it really seems like if you have the skills to win a shitload of money gambling legitimately you wouldn't risk everything by cheating:

    http://sdgln.com/news/2013/09/27/gre...-barona-casino
    Probably because he was broke

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