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    Francisco Trinaldo versus Mike Rio:

    Trinaldo is a good kickboxer with some decent wrestling. He lost to Tibau via wrestling but it wasn't a total clinic. The only problem is Rio is a JUCO wrestling champ. No idea. Maybe Trinaldo if he is a significant dog. Rio got beat by Efrain Escudero. Not that he is horrible or anything but he isn't that great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edman5555 View Post
    I would think IF he can get him down he holds a significant edge there.
    Yeah, I don't doubt that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edman5555 View Post
    Never. However he doesn't usually fight talented strikers. Aside from Gilbert Yvel and Mirko cro cop. Those are the two best strikers he has fought.
    I just don't even think JDS's mind works that way. He's a kickboxer and that's where he's most comfortable. And when he fights other kickboxers he likes to engage in kickboxing matches.

    If JDS gameplans to wrestle this time, well, we've seen strikers do that before when they feel they have a distinct grappling advantage over another striker, but it will literally be the first time that's ever been the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Svino View Post
    I don't know if we can assume that. It's pretty common for MMA strikers to develop great takedown defense without also having good offensive wrestling.
    Didn't he slam Shane Carwin?
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    I think he did shoot for takedowns on carwin. That is actually what i was thinking about but i couldnt remember if he landed them.
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    S far i am on jacqre for a few units already. Im looking at lucas martins, fabio maldanado, rda, and maybe rafael natal.

    What do you guys think of natal vs camozzi? I could use some help on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edman5555 View Post
    S far i am on jacqre for a few units already. Im looking at lucas martins, fabio maldanado, rda, and maybe rafael natal.

    What do you guys think of natal vs camozzi? I could use some help on that one.
    Natal is more skilled, Camozzi is tougher. So... Camozzi.
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    JDS shot takedowns on Roy and Carwin and got them easy. I won't be surprised to see JDS mix it up. I think on the feet JDS wins anyways. JDS is too big, quick, and black for Hunt.

    Then again, I am 0-4 betting against Mark Hunt in his last 4 fights, and I've been confident in every one of those. Fuck you Mark Hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edman5555 View Post
    S far i am on jacqre for a few units already. Im looking at lucas martins, fabio maldanado, rda, and maybe rafael natal.

    What do you guys think of natal vs camozzi? I could use some help on that one.
    I havent looked at any of these matches lol but Natal has stamina problem. He fights at a high pace he can not keep up with and he wil def be gassing hard if he cant finish Camozzi and Camozzi is tough to finish. I think Camozzi +3.5 is the best bet on this fight. Unfortunately, that bet is only offered on 5dimes if Camozzi is the underdog.. I have no idea who will win the fight straight up

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike View Post
    I havent looked at any of these matches lol but Natal has stamina problem. He fights at a high pace he can not keep up with and he wil def be gassing hard if he cant finish Camozzi and Camozzi is tough to finish. I think Camozzi +3.5 is the best bet on this fight. Unfortunately, that bet is only offered on 5dimes if Camozzi is the underdog.. I have no idea who will win the fight straight up
    Good call on the camozzi plus 3.5. I'm not sure I see natal being able to finish camozzi with a sub. Maybe a tko. Natal will probably be the dog in this one though. Natals last win is a 170 pounder that took the fight on short notice. He was ko'd by craig and before that be beat Kuiper who is 1 and 2 in the ufc. Don't get me wrong, I think Kuiper is good. Camozzi has four straight wins, the last two being Nick Ring and Luiz Cane. Both are pretty decent fighters.

    I might bet Natal if he is a big enough dog.
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    Costa out, Camozzi in.

    Gay. No more -220 for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    Costa out, Camozzi in.

    Gay. No more -220 for me.
    Jacare will win that one easy though.
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    He would have beat Costa easy too.

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    Natal is fighting some other brazilian jiu jitsu guy now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    He would have beat Costa easy too.
    You really think it would have been so easy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by edman5555 View Post
    You really think it would have been so easy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    He would have beat Costa easy too.

    Yes.

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    I hope jacares line isnt shit. I will probably take him to sub camozzi as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edman5555 View Post
    I hope jacares line isnt shit. I will probably take him to sub camozzi as well.
    Lol, shit will probably be -450

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    Probably.
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    I'd take Jacare at -450 against someone like Camozzi, no problem.
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