UFC 164

[Mr. IWS]

I usually always bet Mir fights, but I might lay off this one. I lean Barnett though. Mir is due to pull a rabbit out of his ass in the form of a crazy sub.

[poopoo333]

I'm going to bet the fuck out of Barnett.

[SPX]

I really think this one could go either way. I'm staying away from that shit.

Really, I need to see Barnett fight a few top HWs to really know where he stands. He fought Cormier and lost.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't bet against Mir if he is an underdog, which he will be. It is just too risky laying the juice against Mir.

Barnett should win, but for the only the 2nd time ever, I will be pulling for Mir. I wouldn't be surprised to see a kickboxing match here and Barnett's striking is nothing to write home about IMO

[poopoo333]

Barnett lost to Cormier but Cormier is really fucking good.

Cormier is the future LHW champ.

[MMA_scientist]

and name someone good that Barnett has beaten in the last 5 years? The last time he fought a ranked opponent was 2006, which he also lost to Nog.

[Luke]

I like Mir to win and expect it to open around -115/-115

[edman5555]

Mirs striking might be better than barnett. It could come down to wrestling.

[MMA_scientist]

^ that's pretty much how I see it. If Barnett can take him down enough, he will probably win. Mir's TD defense has improved and Barnett is not an all world wrestler. Standing, you never can tell how Mir is going to look. It could be the guy that dropped Nog like 4 times, or it could be the guy that got dropped by Nog.

[poopoo333]

and name someone good that Barnett has beaten in the last 5 years? The last time he fought a ranked opponent was 2006, which he also lost to Nog.

Brett Rogers, the man who beat Fedor in round 1.

(Just kidding we know he didn't win that round)

[MMA_scientist]

Brett Rogers, the man who beat Fedor in round 1.

(Just kidding we know he didn't win that round)

I said someone good. Rogers is a can. Barnett has done nothing but smash cans and get beat by Cormier in the last 7 years. 7 goddamned years.

[SPX]

I think this Mir fight will do a lot to show exactly where he stands in today's HW MMA world.

[edman5555]

I think this Mir fight will do a lot to show exactly where he stands in today's HW MMA world.

Nice car sig. I think this fight will show where Barnett stands in HW MMA world. I think we know whereabouts Mir stands. We've seen mire fight top competition for years. Hes pretty good. Has good all around skills and is very dangerous. He won't be beating the top guys but will always be in the middle of the pack. Barnett is a complete question mark at this point. We really don't know what he looks like against UFC level competition.

[edman5555]

I said someone good. Rogers is a can. Barnett has done nothing but smash cans and get beat by Cormier in the last 7 years. 7 goddamned years.

Sergei Kharitonov, Jeff Monson, and Gilbert Yvel aren't cans IMO. They would probably be bottom tier UFC fighters but they are skilled. Better than cans. Sergei is actually has a lot of good wins in mma.

[SPX]

Nice car sig.

Bol, thanks.

I think this fight will show where Barnett stands in HW MMA world. I think we know whereabouts Mir stands. We've seen mire fight top competition for years. Hes pretty good. Has good all around skills and is very dangerous. He won't be beating the top guys but will always be in the middle of the pack. Barnett is a complete question mark at this point. We really don't know what he looks like against UFC level competition.

Yeah, I was talking about Barnett. Mir fight = Fight with Mir

[SPX]

Sergei Kharitonov, Jeff Monson, and Gilbert Yvel aren't cans IMO. They would probably be bottom tier UFC fighters but they are skilled. Better than cans. Sergei is actually has a lot of good wins in mma.

Agreed. Not cans. Especially not Kharitonov.

[poopoo333]

Yvel is a can.

Rogers is p4p #1 imo

[SPX]

You know Rogers must feel like shit. Dude went 10-0, picked up a big upset win over AA, got a lot of hype and then promptly just imploded after that.

[Mr. IWS]

You know Rogers must feel like shit. Dude went 10-0, picked up a big upset win over AA, got a lot of hype and then promptly just imploded after that.

That TKO stoppage vs his wife was the best fight He has had since then.

[Luke]

That TKO stoppage vs his wife was the best fight He has had since then.

BOLZER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!














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