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    Kimbo - Shamrock

    Kimbo via knee bar
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    Kimbo has to win this. Shamrock is a corpse


    In before Shamrock drops out and Seth KO's Kimbo again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Kimbo has to win this. Shamrock is a corpse


    In before Shamrock drops out and Seth KO's Kimbo again
    They would murder Seth for real this time.
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    All right, so what's the deal. . .

    Was this a fix or no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    All right, so what's the deal. . .

    Was this a fix or no?

    Probably. I think Tito vs Schlemnko (sp?) was also
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    Really? Why do you think that about Tito/Alex?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Really? Why do you think that about Tito/Alex?

    Because the TD Tito took him down shouldn't have been able to get a 12 year old down, it almost looks like he's talking in his hear during the fight, and then he just gives up the sub so easily. That was just my thoughts watching it live.

    Lets see if we can find the fght to post it here and look at it again
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    I won't say it didn't look suspicious or weirdly easy for Tito. But I just tend to have a really hard time believing any particular fight is fixed. That of course doesn't mean it never happens. But I think it's very rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    I won't say it didn't look suspicious or weirdly easy for Tito. But I just tend to have a really hard time believing any particular fight is fixed. That of course doesn't mean it never happens. But I think it's very rare.
    It is rare. We're talking about 2 fights in the last, what, 8-10 years?

    Did you find that fight to post it here?
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    I don't really think Tito/Schlemenko was suspicious. Tito looked fucking huge in comparison, and he pretty much landed in side control(Hector Lombard pretty much put a grappling clinic on Schlemenko). I'm not surprised Tito was able to more or less power that arm triangle home

    Shamrock/Kimbo looked suspicious, though. Shamrock had that choke locked in, and just suddenly let Kimbo out it seemed like.
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    Schlemenko always had a bad tendency to willingly give up his back when he's taken down. It was a matter of time before someone made him pay for it. I think it was just bad instincts that were never ironed out in his training camps.

    Bellator has had it's share of shady fights though. Volkov/Holata looked fishy. The shots that initially hurt Holata looked pitiful and he was bobbing his head back and forth even when strikes weren't coming. A Lashley fight also looked fishy with a fighter instantly turtling after a failed TD attempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalHit View Post
    Bellator has had it's share of shady fights though. Volkov/Holata looked fishy. The shots that initially hurt Holata looked pitiful and he was bobbing his head back and forth even when strikes weren't coming. A Lashley fight also looked fishy with a fighter instantly turtling after a failed TD attempt.
    Maybe I'm just naive, but it's just hard for me to think that American orgs are fixing fights with anything even remotely close to regularity. Although I think Coker would do it before Dana and Crew would take that chance.
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    Don't think the Tito fight was suspicious.

    Think the Kimbo fight was definitely fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Éire View Post
    Think the Kimbo fight was definitely fixed.
    It was definitely weird looking. And maybe fixed.

    But on the other hand I'm like, then again, these are a couple of old motherfuckers in there trying to fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    It was definitely weird looking. And maybe fixed.

    But on the other hand I'm like, then again, these are a couple of old motherfuckers in there trying to fight.
    This is very true. I just can't wrap my mind around Kimbo getting out of that choke by himself though. Ken didn't forget how to squeeze around the neck, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    Maybe I'm just naive, but it's just hard for me to think that American orgs are fixing fights with anything even remotely close to regularity. Although I think Coker would do it before Dana and Crew would take that chance.
    Oh I have no idea how far those fishy fights have gone. I always assume at the least the fighter possibly taking a dive and his camp is on it. There's a bunch of different reasons a fighter would throw a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalHit View Post
    Oh I have no idea how far those fishy fights have gone. I always assume at the least the fighter possibly taking a dive and his camp is on it. There's a bunch of different reasons a fighter would throw a fight.

    If I was a prelim fighter making 10k to fight, and a big fav, I'd take a dive if I thought I could clear 100-200k betting against myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    If I was a prelim fighter making 10k to fight, and a big fav, I'd take a dive if I thought I could clear 100-200k betting against myself
    I think a lot of fighters would consider it. It seems to me like it would take some real acting ability to sell it, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPX View Post
    I think a lot of fighters would consider it. It seems to me like it would take some real acting ability to sell it, though.
    Not really. Drop your hands, get hit, pretend youre dead. For 200k, I'd get knocked out for real
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