I was just saying that Grif is quite far beyond Escudero at this point, that thinking Dunham will probably win--gun to your head--should've mean that he would handily defeat Efrain.Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
I was just saying that Grif is quite far beyond Escudero at this point, that thinking Dunham will probably win--gun to your head--should've mean that he would handily defeat Efrain.Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
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Fair enough.Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
I was mostly just fucking with you anyway.
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Sig bet?Originally Posted by ManBoobKilla
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I agree, Tyson is a level above Efrain. I read your first post like, "this dumbass thinks Dunham will beat Griffin, but not Efrain..."Originally Posted by SPX
I am just saying, I kind of knew the Efrain fight was close (and it was competitive) and since then we have a lot more info on Dunham. We have seen his takedown defense against an elite wrestler, we have seen his submission game, and we have seen his gnp defense. We didn't know any of that before the Efrain fight.
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I agree that one fight can add a lot to your perception of a fighter, especially a fight against someone who is known to be a good fighter in their own right.Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
I think Dunham shows a lot of promise, but this is a big step up for him. In fact, I don't think Griffin should even be fighting guys like Dunham. He should be fighting Florian, Maynard, or possibly rematching Guida in a fight that I actually felt like Guida won.
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Its a crappy fight for Griffin, it always sucks for a guy that is near the top to have to fight an up and comer. But the desperately need some new challengers @ 155. They can't let Florian fight for the title for a 3rd time, which is what is going to end up happening.
I would love to see Griffin/Edgar II. That was one of my all time favorite fights.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Florian get one more shot. He's always been oh-so-close.Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
I think that if he fights Penn with a different gameplan then there could be a different result. And he Edgar actually wins the rematch, then Florian stands a good chance of winning that fight, too.
Who do you think won?Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
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Hmmm........ Ya ill do a sig bet. Im new at the whole forum thing doesnt that mean whoever wins gets to create a signature for the other person?Originally Posted by SPX
I wouldn't mind him getting a shot against Edgar, but I dont need to see the Penn fight again. I think Florian would beat Edgar.Originally Posted by SPX
I think Edgar won, but it was close.Originally Posted by SPX
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Yeah.Originally Posted by ManBoobKilla
I've actually never sig betted anyone before, but you're sold on Dunham, and I think Grif takes it, so why the hell not. I promise not to make you have a sig that says you like my balls in your face or anything. . .
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How about Griffin/Guida?Originally Posted by MMA_scientist
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Lol!! alright fair enough.Originally Posted by SPX
Ok stuff I am considering:
Small play on Liddell
Stay away from Barry/Cro Cop
Definitely be on Thiago @-200 or better
Definitely be on Rothwell @-225 or better
Stay away from Condit/Macdonald
Not sure about Griffin/Dunham...I will have to watch Dunham again
Danzig/Wiman...didn't even watch footage yet
I don't see anything I like for the rest of the undercard. Any thoughts? I am thinking Wilks over Sobotta... but only because it is probably a spoon fed match up for Wilks.. I don't know much about Sobotta at all.
Originally Posted by SPX
Guida won.
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Originally Posted by poopoo333
Tough card to cap, IMO
I like Rothwell as well. I think Fitch will beat Alves again though.
everythinig else is really close. Everyone is saying Barry is going to beat CroCop...
I will have to look at Pyle/Lennox, that could be worth a bet.
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Everyone else acting like Barry is going to kill CC doesn't sway my opinion... I think this fight will be a close fight. Fitch/Alves is @117 now, and I am leaning towards Fitch as well... it will be a year long lay off for Alves by fight time. I got Mike Pyle mixed up with Mike Pierce and was going to say I would definitely be taking Pyle, but I realized my mistake and now I have nothing.
Ok, now I am starting to think otherwise. Barry is probably going to win.Originally Posted by poopoo333
Barry is going to send CC into retirement.
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Smart money is on Condit, Dunham & Wiman. Liddell sounded very punch drunk on TUF. He's just like CroCop (may be even worst). THey're half the fighter they used to be. Franklin has never impressed me with his striking but he can hang in there with Liddell at this point. he's probably going to be the more active fighter n can also stay away from Liddell's heavy blows. I'd say he'll take a dec win.Originally Posted by poopoo333