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  • SPX
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    • Aug 2009
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    #76
    Originally posted by Ludo
    Well you said it before your interest lies in traditional asian arts. I guess I'm a bit of a hipster when it comes to Martial Arts, at least in what interests Me more. I'd rather watch some Pradal Serey, Pankration, or even something on Eskrima before something on TMA.
    Yes. My interest is often directly related to the culture from which it sprang. If a style doesn't have a culture and history that's interesting to me then it usually won't get much love.

    For me, it usually goes something like:

    Karate and TKD
    Judo
    Kung Fu
    MMA (basically a style at this point) and BJJ
    Boxing and MT
    Savate
    Everything Else

    Almost everything from Southeast Asia with the exception of MT barely even appears on my radar.


    Originally posted by Ludo
    Probably because it's so easy to do serious/permanent damage to the joint that it's almost impossible to practice and therefore not practical to use. One wrong step and your shit could be shattered even in 50% drills or something.
    Yeah, but it's like I said before, a lot of performing self-defense moves is mental . . . preparing yourself mentally to do the movement or to strike to certain areas. I mean, it's impractical to strike to ANY of the vital areas, like the groin, the eyes, the throat, etc. but there are drills which simulate doing so and which build up a subconscious suggestion to do so when the shit hits the fan.
    Last edited by SPX; 01-20-2012, 01:25 AM.
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    • SPX
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      #77
      Reposting due to awesomeness. I am seriously a fan of this dude's old school ass kicking!













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      • Ludo
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        • Jan 2010
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        #78
        Originally posted by SPX
        Yes. My interest is often directly related to the culture from which it sprang. If a style doesn't have a culture and history that's interesting to me then it usually won't get much love.

        For me, it usually goes something like:

        Karate and TKD
        Kung Fu
        MMA (basically a style at this point)
        Boxing and MT
        Savate
        Everything Else

        Almost everything from Southeast Asia with the exception of MT barely even appears on my radar.
        My list looks like:

        MMA
        Muay Thai
        Knife Fighting
        Warfare arts(Pankration, Silat, Eskrima, Sambo basically anything that was meant to be used in full scale battles etc etc etc)
        Everything else

        I mean, I dabble and I like to at least know something about everything just for My own personal knowledge but My interests really are in alot of the stuff that isn't inherently tied to China, Japan, and Korea.

        Originally posted by SPX
        Yeah, but it's like I said before, a lot of performing self-defense moves is mental . . . preparing yourself mentally to do the movement or to strike to certain areas. I mean, it's impractical to strike to ANY of the vital areas, like the groin, the eyes, the throat, etc. but there are drills which simulate doing so and which build up a subconscious suggestion to do so when the shit hits the fan.
        Yeah but it's easier to drill strikes to the throat or eyes because those are essentially just aim and go. You can practice those on a dummy or from a safe distance out of arms length from someone and drill the necessary strength for the technique. With something designed to attack the knee or the groin(much heavier areas of the body) you need to drill the exact kind of force in order to properly use it on the fly.

        Like alot of kicks you need to practice on something you can actually contact otherwise you won't know if your doing it improperly, which runs a risk of injuring yourself if your someday forced to use it for real. If your not used to the feeling of hitting something solid with the technique you could be in too close and knock yourself off balance, or too far away and hurt your own leg trying to stretch into it. Until you know what it feels like to actually try and push your foot into someone's knee or groin you won't know how much juice to give it before you lose your balance if it doesn't move, or what range is proper for you, etc etc etc.

        Because it's extremely unsafe to drill this on a person it's hard to bring it into alot of systems. It's not like putting on a fat suit and drilling a lifting kick to the groin like in a womens self defense class, there's no pad that will stop your knee from hyper-extending and buckling in the event that something goes wrong.
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        • SPX
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          #79
          Hmm. . . combative tai chi . . . didn't realize it actually existed. . .


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          • Ludo
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            #80
            That shit looks hella-fake. Either that or that's the lightest fat guy ever.
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            • SPX
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              #81
              I have the same suspicions, but I don't see the big guy intentionally jumping away or anything.
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              • SPX
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                #82
                Interesting Bill Wallace seminar . . . gotta love me some Bill Wallace . . .


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                • Ludo
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                  #83
                  Originally posted by SPX
                  I have the same suspicions, but I don't see the big guy intentionally jumping away or anything.
                  No, but that doesn't mean it's not carefully choreographed or anything. For all we know they worked for a few days on that shit. That or the little guy was exposed to gamma radiation.
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                  • SPX
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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Ludo
                    No, but that doesn't mean it's not carefully choreographed or anything. For all we know they worked for a few days on that shit. That or the little guy was exposed to gamma radiation.
                    I was thinking more like he was using the principles of a lot of grappling arts when it comes to redirecting force. Also, it's quite possible he could just be a strong motherfucker. It's not like the bigger guy completely dwarfed him.

                    It could certainly be choreographed. Or it could also just be REAL tai chi in action.
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                    • SPX
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                      #85
                      More Bill Wallace action:












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                      • SPX
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                        #86
                        And why stop there?

















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                        • SPX
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                          #87
                          "Push it in nice and hard!"

                          Insane flexibility from Bill Wallace.



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                          • Ludo
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                            #88
                            I liked him better when he was still William.
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                            • SPX
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                              #89
                              Bill Wallace is fucking awesome. Such a smooth and fast kicker.
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                              • SPX
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                                #90
                                Awesome! This is Shotokan, but it's really similar to what I'm learning in wado-ryu. . .



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