Boxing talk/ plays

[Luke]

[Vandelay]

O shit, is toney (199 lbs) back?

[sbjj]

James is gonna beat him. but the judges might rob him.

[Luke]

Toney is shot ,there's a reason Lebedev is -700

A very old fighter coming down a lot of weight is usually a disaster waiting to happen.

With that said I hope Toney wins

[sbjj]

Toney is shot ,there's a reason Lebedev is -700

A very old fighter coming down a lot of weight is usually a disaster waiting to happen.

With that said I hope Toney wins

Jones Jr. was also shot(more IMO) and he took one dimensional Lebedev into the last round and was winning the fight before being stopped.

[Vandelay]

Toney is looking pretty bad.

[Vandelay]

Toney lost a unanimous decision. Probably 120-108 on all cards.

[Luke]

Didnt see the fight but read Toney got smoked

120-108, 120-108, and 120-107 for Lebedev, as he clearly won just about every single second of the fight against a totally shot, totally outclassed fighter who shouldn't have ever been in the ring to begin with.

Pretty much what I thought would happen.

Now looking for video

[SPX]

Blah blah blah boxing blah thread is gay.

[Luke]

I wont post the video since no one cares

[Svino]

Snapshot of the scorecards for the Pacquiao fight:

Only half the rounds had the judges agreeing on a winner.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/11/1...cores-decision

[Ludo]

Snapshot of the scorecards for the Pacquiao fight:

Only half the rounds had the judges agreeing on a winner.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/11/1...cores-decision

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/vi...ilogy-compubox

When the numbers are this close it's hard to make a case for the guy who sits back and isn't initiating all night. I can see why someone might have Pac or Marquez winning, I personally had it a draw at the time. But I don't have a problem with someone who throws more, lands more, and steps forward the whole time getting the nod.

[SPX]

So if Pac ever actually fights Mayweather, who wins? I suspect Mayweather will take it.

[poopoo333]

So if Pac ever actually fights Mayweather, who wins? I suspect Mayweather will take it.

What's your breakdown of the fight?

[SPX]

Mayweather punches his more and wins.

[Vandelay]

So katsidis should never lose then? as long as you throw and land more, you should win. Poor logic. If someone is effectively countering and parrying then he should be rewarded.

[SPX]

Seriously though, I think it will come down to defense. Mayweather will probably be able to defend and counter-punch like he always does. But I'm for damn sure not a credible boxing analyst.

[Ludo]

Effective countering has always been a dangerous game to play because if you don't look especially good doing it the judges won't be convinced. This fight is a perfect example in which the significant strikes are almost identical(it breaks down to Pac landing like 1.5 more significant strikes per round).

[sbjj]

So katsidis should never lose then? as long as you throw and land more, you should win. Poor logic. If someone is effectively countering and parrying then he should be rewarded.

You talking about which fights? Most of his losses are him getting CLEARLY beat.

[Vandelay]

none in particular. I'm just trying to make the argument that aggression and punch output shouldnt be favored over countering. I think if someone lands 20 of 50 shots in a round compared to 20 of 100. Then the more accurate, better defensive fights should win that round. I didnt really watch the pac fight so I cant really say who I think won or lost that fight.