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Someone get a "Fuck Paul Buentello" name in here. Anyone who taps from elbows to the fucking thigh should stop pretending to be a fighter.
Dude, I think he just knew he was going to lose and didn't want to get beat on anymore. I can't blame him. I'm no fighter, but I was recently hit in the face just ONCE and it wasn't even that hard of a shot and it was enough to make me respect anyone who can deal with that for 15 minutes.
"Well, it's the toughest fight of my career."
Doesn't he say that shit every time?
Someone get a "Fuck Paul Buentello" name in here. Anyone who taps from elbows to the fucking thigh should stop pretending to be a fighter.
Dude, I think he just knew he was going to lose and didn't want to get beat on anymore. I can't blame him. I'm no fighter, but I was recently hit in the face just ONCE and it wasn't even that hard of a shot and it was enough to make me respect anyone who can deal with that for 15 minutes.
who hit you and why?
triathlete
03-21-2010, 10:05 PM
Ya know... I'm going to come out and say it. I love Georges St. Pierre... I really do. There, I said it. Think what you will of me.
Ya know... I'm going to come out and say it. I love Georges St. Pierre... I really do. There, I said it. Think what you will of me.
Man crush ALERT LOL
who hit you and why?
A friend of mine, and because I hit him. We were drunk.
But I'm 140 lbs and he's about 355. Still, he said that wasn't a particularly hard shot. I believe him. It hurt but I was still awake after he did it.
Ya know... I'm going to come out and say it. I love Georges St. Pierre... I really do. There, I said it. Think what you will of me.
I like GSP. But I also have a bias against guys who are completely dominant. If you haven't noticed, I tend to have underdogs as my favorite fighters (Serra, for instance). Maybe that's because I kind of feel like an underdog in life myself.
I just took JDS
2.5 units to win 1
GL everyone
poopoo333
03-21-2010, 10:11 PM
Jason Brilz defeats Eric Schafer in the first fight UD
Yep, lame.
My plays for the night
0.5 units on Marshall @ +145
0.5 units on Schafer @ +130
2 units on Kongo @ -400
I might add Vera for 0.5 unit.
I added one unit on JDS @ -250 and 2 more units on Kongo at -345
I just took JDS
2.5 units to win 1
GL everyone
Damn right.
JDS needs to fuck him up in the first round.
triathlete
03-21-2010, 10:13 PM
I just took JDS
2.5 units to win 1
GL everyone
Damn right.
JDS needs to fuck him up in the first round.
Agreed.. I have 2u on JDS.
Alright everyone. I need all of you watching to scream at the top of your lungs, urging JDS to win. I also need you to shadow box so he can hit harder NOW!
Alright everyone. I need all of you watching to scream at the top of your lungs, urging JDS to win. I also need you to shadow box so he can hit harder NOW!
Seconded.
JDS needs to put this motherfucker to SLEEP!
YoungTRK484
03-21-2010, 10:17 PM
SWEEEEETDREAMS!
triathlete
03-21-2010, 10:18 PM
Fuck yes!!
JDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH~!!! Someone call the Amberlamps!
::dance:: ::dance:: ::dance:: ::dance:: ::dance:: ::dance::
::hammertime:: ::hammertime:: ::hammertime::
triathlete
03-21-2010, 10:19 PM
2 Legit... 2 Legit 2 quit... hay heeeyyy
I've been telling you motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!
I've been telling you since like 4 fights ago that JDS is a fucking beast! Potential future HW champ right there!!
NIGHT NIGHT GONZAGA!!!
Agreed.. I have 2u on JDS.
You still rocking out the $2 units?
I've been telling you motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!
I've been telling you since like 4 fights ago that JDS is a fucking beast! Potential future HW champ right there!!
NIGHT NIGHT GONZAGA!!!
Hold on there Gonzaga got beat by Couture I've been saying forever Zaga is overated .I'm king of the forum ::thumbup::
Congrads everyone ::winna::
Thats it for me no bet on the main event
2-0 +200 today cant ask for more ::moneybag::
In other news die Vera you fraud
Thats it for me not bet on the main event
2-0 +200 today cant ask for more ::moneybag::
In other news die Vera you fraud
Congrats homey.
I agree . . . Vera needs to die.
Not that I dislike him. I think he's probably a decent guy. But he needs to lose. He can win the next one.
JDS will fight Cain next imo
triathlete
03-21-2010, 10:25 PM
Agreed.. I have 2u on JDS.
You still rocking out the $2 units?
Haha... maybe. ::moneybag::
No...He can lose the next one too, and then fight guys like Bonnar and Matsushenko for the rest of his career
I got Howard in this one
Don't you know Howard's overrated?
YoungTRK484
03-21-2010, 10:28 PM
OMFG those were some vicious lefts!
Damn, he straight put that negro to sleep.
". . . and then the commissioner almost got hit with a flip."
The UFC would not be the UFC without Rogan and Goldie.
Hey that flip was lethal looking. That white man wanted no part of a tumbling black man.
". . . and then the commissioner almost got hit with a flip."
The UFC would not be the UFC without Rogan and Goldie.
You mean over doing everything?
Damn, he straight put that negro to sleep.
Am I a psycho for thinking it was cool as hell to see his eyes staring at me while he was out cold?
You mean over doing everything?
I mean whatever it is that they do, but personally I think it's a winning combination. Love that shit. Much better than listening to boxing announcers.
MMA is still kind of outlaw and I like it like that. I don't want it to ever go totally mainstream.
Am I a psycho for thinking it was cool as hell to see his eyes staring at me while he was out cold?
It was weird, man. Anytime someone goes out and their eyes are open it's like that.
YoungTRK484
03-21-2010, 10:35 PM
Am I a psycho for thinking it was cool as hell to see his eyes staring at me while he was out cold?
It was weird, man. Anytime someone goes out and their eyes are open it's like that.
I agree. Very weird. But friggin awesome. ::praise::
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I've always wanted to check out NYC. Not sure if it'd be the place for me, though.
Do you think Kerry could beat Brandon in a fight?
I've always wanted to check out NYC. Not sure if it'd be the place for me, though.
But if you can make it there, you can make it boom boom ANYWHERE!
Jones going to beat that ass imo . If I wasnt such a pussy and didnt want to put my profits on the line I'd bet it but I'm taking my money and going home and just watching this shit
DIE VERA YOU PUSSY
Do you think Kerry could beat Brandon in a fight?
Probably but I dont have a very high opinion of Brandon
Jones going to beat that ass imo . If I wasnt such a pussy and didnt want to put my profits on the line I'd bet it but I'm taking my money and going home and just watching this shit
DIE VERA YOU PUSSY
I'd encourage you to do it while you can, but fuck it. Vera is a vet. It could backfire.
Probably but I dont have a very high opinion of Brandon
Vera would make her eat his ass.
triathlete
03-21-2010, 10:43 PM
Jones looks too much like Terrell Owens for me to get really excited about him. I hate TO.
YoungTRK484
03-21-2010, 10:44 PM
I've always wanted to check out NYC. Not sure if it'd be the place for me, though.
Definitely worth checking out, I take it for granted, living in central NJ and very closeby to NYC.
Jones going to beat that ass imo . If I wasnt such a pussy and didnt want to put my profits on the line I'd bet it but I'm taking my money and going home and just watching this shit
DIE VERA YOU PUSSY
I'd encourage you to do it while you can, but fuck it. Vera is a vet. It could backfire.
I rarely press my luck
wow...I wouldn't deduct the point based solely on the fact that he was able to kick a dude in the face without much seperation
illegal kick point taken from Vera
Damn, it works out for me, but Herb Dean isn't fucking around tonight.
triathlete
03-21-2010, 10:48 PM
What the . .
YoungTRK484
03-21-2010, 10:49 PM
Done and done. That was a sick elbow!
LOL ITS OVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrr
YoungTRK484
03-21-2010, 10:50 PM
Some excellent knockouts tonight.
LOL BRANDON VERA IS such a loser
I'm excited, but kind of wanted to see more.
Wheres ZY and his man crush on Vera???
I told you he was a bum .
Veras a bum lol
YoungTRK484
03-21-2010, 10:53 PM
The sound that elbow made was crazy. Vera's skull got cracked.
I'm excited, but kind of wanted to see more.
Dude its money I pray they stop ASAP
Dude its money I pray they stop ASAP
No, I hear you.
But as a fan I wanted more Johnny Bones Jones action!
+1.46u for the night.
It's not much, but it's a hell of a lot better than losing. The hail mary play payed off this time.
Dude its money I pray they stop ASAP
No, I hear you.
But as a fan I wanted more Johnny Bones Jones action!
Yeah I would have liked to see Vera face get pounded more.
So how did everyone end up doing tonight?
So how did everyone end up doing tonight?
+1.46u for the night.
triathlete
03-21-2010, 11:01 PM
+2.3 I'm goin' to Starbucks, baby!
So how did everyone end up doing tonight?
+1.46u for the night.
Good job man .
Not sure how ZY, Ipickthesenuts,Ludo ,Poopoo ,triathlete or MMAscientist did
+2.3 I'm goin' to Starbucks, baby!
any winning day is always great
Kind of disappointed I took my money and ran instead betting Jones when I knew Vera didnt stand a chance
The truth will be known as the following from now on:
Brandon "The Bum" Vera
Kind of disappointed I took my money and ran instead betting Jones when I knew Vera didnt stand a chance
Dude, after the Klitschko fight and this shit you'd be straight pimpin' tonight. . .
It's interesting, because Bones just did to Vera was Couture could not.
It's interesting, because Bones just did to Vera was Couture could not.
I'd 100% take Jones over Couture at anything -150 or under
Kind of disappointed I took my money and ran instead betting Jones when I knew Vera didnt stand a chance
Dude, after the Klitschko fight and this shit you'd be straight pimpin' tonight. . .
I'm very conservative when it comes to betting .If I win 2 in one night I think something bad is going to happen so I dont want to throw the last bet down .I should do what you do and just bet all them before the event starts
+6u
Great job Ludo ::handshake::
I'd 100% take Jones over Couture at anything -150 or under
LOL. -150 or under.
I'd 100% take Jones over Couture at anything -150 or under
LOL. -150 or under.
Dude Couture is not going to be +200 or more to anyone at 205 just because of his name. If you think he will you're crazy
What do you think a Jones -Couture line would be?
poopoo333
03-21-2010, 11:17 PM
+0.48 units
About fucking time I got an event to pay off anything worth a damn lately. Marquardt really began a fucked up dry run for me which included Sengoku and WEC
+0.48 units
::handshake::
I'd 100% take Jones over Couture at anything -150 or under
LOL. -150 or under.
Dude Couture is not going to be +200 or more to anyone at 205 just because of his name. If you think he will you're crazy
What do you think a Jones -Couture line would be?
Earth to SPX come in SPX come in
Earth to SPX come in SPX come in
Sorry, I was watching Josie and The Pussycats
To answer your question. . .
My point was only that if you'd ONLY take him up to -150 then you're not super confident.
Earth to SPX come in SPX come in
Sorry, I was watching Josie and The Pussycats
To answer your question. . .
My point was only that if you'd ONLY take him up to -150 then you're not super confident.
Josie and The Pussycats ::lmao::
-150 was my line guess .Just because I dont say I'd take it up to -400 doesnt mean I'm not confident .I'm going to take Mayweather over Manny at -150 or under and it will be the biggest bet in boxing ever for me . I usually know where a line should be so even though I maybe 100% confident on the fight I dont want to get screwed by the line
you know?
Ipickdeeznuts2win
03-21-2010, 11:42 PM
Woo hoo +5.5U for the night.
If I wouldn't have put the small dog bet on Marshall I would have gone 5-0.
Bones and JDS are the future!!!
Woo hoo +5.5U for the night.
If I wouldn't have put the small dog bet on Marshall I would have gone 5-0.
Bones and JDS are the future!!!
Great job man ,I thought you cleaned up
::clap::
Josie and The Pussycats ::lmao::
No, I'm serious. I've been on a late-90s, early-2000s teen film craze lately. I've watched Scream, Antitrust (love that shit!), Bring it On, Cruel Intentions, Legally Blonde, and Election. Now Josie and the Pussycats.
-150 was my line guess .Just because I dont say I'd take it up to -400 doesnt mean I'm not confident .I'm going to take Mayweather over Manny at -150 or under and it will be the biggest bet in boxing ever for me . I usually know where a line should be so even though I maybe 100% confident on the fight I dont want to get screwed by the line
you know?
Yeah, I hear you. That's why I originally didn't want to bet on Kongo VS Buentello. Obviously the line was right on, but I didn't like it. Especially after the Marquardt fiasco. Guess I'm a little gunshy.
For the first time ever, the organization dished out three 50K "Knockout of the Night" awards (to Jon Jones, Junior Dos Santos and John Howard), a single "Submission of the Night" bonus (Clay Guida) and no "Fight of the Night" honors.
::handshake::
No, I'm serious. I've been on a late-90s, early-2000s teen film craze lately. I've watched Scream, Antitrust (love that shit!), Bring it On, Cruel Intentions, Legally Blonde, and Election. Now Josie and the Pussycats.
Yeah, I hear you. That's why I originally didn't want to bet on Kongo VS Buentello. Obviously the line was right on, but I didn't like it. Especially after the Marquardt fiasco. Guess I'm a little gunshy
I likes antitrust when it came out but not the other ones..
I dont like to lay any higher than -300 on MMA because of the submissions or one punch KO's .In boxing I'll bet up to
-600 becuase I know it so much better and there isnt a chance of the sub/one punch KO
I likes antitrust when it came out but not the other ones..
This shit reminds me of my highschool/first-time-around college days. I'm into it. Life seems better back in the day.
I dont like to lay any higher than -300 on MMA because of the submissions or one punch KO's .In boxing I'll bet up to
-600 becuase I know it so much better and there isnt a chance of the sub/one punch KO
I hear you. Me either! It difficult if the name's not Silva, Penn, or GSP.
This shit reminds me of my highschool/first-time-around college days. I'm into it. Life seems better back in the day.
Life was better back in the day ::handshake::
Thewiseman
03-22-2010, 12:03 AM
+1.5u
+1.5u
Good job, man. Always nice to be a winner.
+1.5u
love to hear everyone winning
Life was better back in the day ::handshake::
Fuck yeah!
I feel like my soul died around 2003. . .
Just watched the fights on mma-core.
Other than the Dos Santos fight, that card fucking sucked shit. Gay stoppages and point deductions galore. Weird eye punches and elbows. Glaringly obvious exposures on rules that need to be changed. This no kicks or knees on the ground shit has got to go. Along with that nonsensical elbow rule. Just all around sloppy.
My only bet a few bucks on Marshall. Meh.
Just watched the fights on mma-core.
Other than the Dos Santos fight, that card fucking sucked shit. Gay stoppages and point deductions galore. Weird eye punches and elbows. Glaringly obvious exposures on rules that need to be changed. This no kicks or knees on the ground shit has got to go. Along with that nonsensical elbow rule. Just all around sloppy.
My only bet a few bucks on Marshall. Meh.
One: why didnt you watch this card live on a link?
Two: I thought the card was great
Three :Veras a bum
that is all ::handshake::
Just watched the fights on mma-core.
Other than the Dos Santos fight, that card fucking sucked shit. Gay stoppages and point deductions galore. Weird eye punches and elbows. Glaringly obvious exposures on rules that need to be changed. This no kicks or knees on the ground shit has got to go. Along with that nonsensical elbow rule. Just all around sloppy.
My only bet a few bucks on Marshall. Meh.
You could've just as well been here on time and ready to watch the shit.
I was coming back from out of town.
You can both blow me.
Luke you really thought the card was great?
LOL?
Btw did they show any prelims?
Also, Jon Jones has now become the most overrated fighter in the UFC, taking the title from the previous most overrated fighter in the UFC, Brandon Vera.
I was coming back from out of town.
You can both blow me.
You seriously didnt like the card?
I thought it was a good one
I mean come on the fights were all KO's or stoppages and not boring decisions how can you not like that?
Luke you really thought the card was great?
LOL?
Btw did they show any prelims?
They showed Howard -Roberts
Yes I thought it was a good card. All the fights didnt go to the cards .I hate watching decision fights in MMA so yes Iiked the card
Also, Jon Jones has now become the most overrated fighter in the UFC, taking the title from the previous most overrated fighter in the UFC, Brandon Vera.
I still dont consider Jones a top 5 205 fighter (not even close)but I have said for a long time Vera was the most overrated in the UFC
Beating Vera doesnt move you that far up the food chain in my book
Luke you really thought the card was great?
LOL?
Btw did they show any prelims?
They showed Howard -Roberts
Yes I thought it was a good card. All the fights didnt go to the cards .I hate watching decision fights in MMA so yes Iiked the card
The Kongo fight was pretty good but ruined by point deductions and stupid rules, and everytime I'm reminded of that it just pisses me off. Same with the Vera/Jones fight.
BTW Jon Jones either throws the most accurate elbows ever or has Frank Mir's horseshoe up his ass. That elbow was fucking super lucky.
Speaking of weird lucky shots, the Sakara fight ended horribly also.
But yeah, the Dos Santos fight was great.
As far as I'm concerned, the HW title is between JDS and Cain Velasquez. Those other clowns are just keeping the belt warm.
Also, Jon Jones has now become the most overrated fighter in the UFC, taking the title from the previous most overrated fighter in the UFC, Brandon Vera.
I still dont consider Jones a top 5 205 fighter (not even close)but I have said for a long time Vera was the most overrated in the UFC
Beating Vera doesnt move you that far up the food chain in my book
You and I don't, but trust me, the hype machine is in full motion.
As far as I'm concerned, the HW title is between JDS and Cain Velasquez. Those other clowns are just keeping the belt warm.
Weren't you a big time JDS doubter? Seems I remember something about his "ground game not being tested. . ."
As for "those other clowns just keeping the belt warm," maybe you're right but I'm not sure that either are ready for Lesnar.
You and I don't, but trust me, the hype machine is in full motion
Well yeah ,people on the web spaz out about everything . I'm sure half of them are calling for Jones to get the Rua-Shogun winner and predicting he wins
As far as I'm concerned, the HW title is between JDS and Cain Velasquez. Those other clowns are just keeping the belt warm.
Weren't you a big time JDS doubter? Seems I remember something about his "ground game not being tested. . ."
As for "those other clowns just keeping the belt warm," maybe you're right but I'm not sure that either are ready for Lesnar.
Well clearly that one takedown that Gonzaga got and JDS laughed in his face convinced me. That's all I needed to see.
I think they would both beat Lesnar tomorrow.
Also, WAR DOS SANTOS SPEAKING ENGLISH UNASSISTED
That takes huge fucking nuts in itself.
Well clearly that one takedown that Gonzaga got and JDS laughed in his face convinced me. That's all I needed to see.
Remember that JDS is trained by the Nogs.
Also, WAR DOS SANTOS SPEAKING ENGLISH UNASSISTED
That takes huge fucking nuts in itself.
I noticed that. Pretty pimp. He didn't even need anyone to translate his questions for him.
Well clearly that one takedown that Gonzaga got and JDS laughed in his face convinced me. That's all I needed to see.
Remember that JDS is trained by the Nogs.
I know, but that doesn't mean anything by itself. Duane Ludwig was trained by Bas Rutten a hundred years ago and his ground game still blows monkey nuts.
I'm still curious about his ground game, but I just think he's going to be extremely hard to keep down, which is enough.
As far as I'm concerned, the HW title is between JDS and Cain Velasquez. Those other clowns are just keeping the belt warm.
Weren't you a big time JDS doubter? Seems I remember something about his "ground game not being tested. . ."
As for "those other clowns just keeping the belt warm," maybe you're right but I'm not sure that either are ready for Lesnar.
Ready for Lesnar? Lesnars had 5 fights he's not a world class fighter with 50 fights under his belt .He's a big dumb animal .
I'm pretty sure now JDS,Cain or Carwin is going to unseat Lesnar then they will take turns unseating each other
[quote="zY|":15r7tcje]
Well clearly that one takedown that Gonzaga got and JDS laughed in his face convinced me. That's all I needed to see.
Remember that JDS is trained by the Nogs.
I know, but that doesn't mean anything by itself. Duane Ludwig was trained by Bas Rutten a hundred years ago and his ground game still blows monkey nuts.
I'm still curious about his ground game, but I just think he's going to be extremely hard to keep down, which is enough.[/quote:15r7tcje]
Lets hold off crowning JDS just yet .Gonzaga is one of the most overrated HW's since Tim Sylvia.Besides the one head kick to a washed up Cro Cop 3 years ago Gonzaga hasnt done anything
Ready for Lesnar? Lesnars had 5 fights he's not a world class fighter with 50 fights under his belt .He's a big dumb animal .
I'm pretty sure now JDS,Cain or Carwin is going to unseat Lesnar then they will take turns unseating each other
http://images.tmuscle.com/forum_images/8/d/8de09-NotSureIfSerious.jpg
Ready for Lesnar? Lesnars had 5 fights he's not a world class fighter with 50 fights under his belt .He's a big dumb animal .
I'm pretty sure now JDS,Cain or Carwin is going to unseat Lesnar then they will take turns unseating each other
http://images.tmuscle.com/forum_images/8/d/8de09-NotSureIfSerious.jpg
LOL I agree with him.
JDS and Cain both have more STOPPAGES in the UFC than Lesnar has fights total. Less losses too. COMBINED.
Too bad Cain or JDS never lost to Mir then decisioned Herring, maybe they'd be the champ now too.
LOL I agree with him.
JDS and Cain both have more STOPPAGES in the UFC than Lesnar has fights total. Less losses too. COMBINED.
Too bad Cain or JDS never lost to Mir then decisioned Herring, maybe they'd be the champ now too.
Hey now. . .
How many stoppages does Jon Fitch have? But that doesn't keep him from being #2 in the division for, like, forever.
Ready for Lesnar? Lesnars had 5 fights he's not a world class fighter with 50 fights under his belt .He's a big dumb animal .
I'm pretty sure now JDS,Cain or Carwin is going to unseat Lesnar then they will take turns unseating each other
http://images.tmuscle.com/forum_images/8/d/8de09-NotSureIfSerious.jpg
I was serious
LOL I agree with him.
JDS and Cain both have more STOPPAGES in the UFC than Lesnar has fights total. Less losses too. COMBINED.
Too bad Cain or JDS never lost to Mir then decisioned Herring, maybe they'd be the champ now too.
I mean seriously he beat Herring (whippeee) after losing to Mir and some how got a title shot.He then beat someone 60 pounds less than him and 45 years old at the time for the title.Then he beat Mir in a rematch (whippeee) .Personally I wonder if the big dumb animal is ready for JDS,Cain,and Carwin not the other way around
LOL I agree with him.
JDS and Cain both have more STOPPAGES in the UFC than Lesnar has fights total. Less losses too. COMBINED.
Too bad Cain or JDS never lost to Mir then decisioned Herring, maybe they'd be the champ now too.
I mean seriously he beat Herring (whippeee) after losing to Mir and some how got a title shot.He then beat someone 60 pounds less than him and 45 years old at the time for the title.Then he beat Mir in a rematch (whippeee) .Personally I wonder if the big dumb animal is ready for JDS,Cain,and Carwin not the other way around
Agreed. I think he beats Carwin though.
Too bad Cain or JDS never lost to Mir then decisioned Herring, maybe they'd be the champ now too.
Very true .JDS ,Carwin or Cain would be the champ right now if the got the same path Lesnar got to take
Agreed. I think he beats Carwin though
I'm not sure either way yet . If Carwin destroys Mir or the other way around it could make up my mind.One of the 3 will beat WWE man for sure
Agreed. I think he beats Carwin though
I'm not sure either way yet . If Carwin destroys Mir or the other way around it could make up my mind.One of the 3 will beat WWE man for sure
::handshake::
Yeah beating Vera doesn't bump you into the top five. But he's easily top ten now by destroying Vera like he did. Vera had NO answers off his back, which until he started thinking his Muay Thai was top notch was supposed to be his best position for a win.
Carwin has less meaningful experience than Brock, a lesser wrestling pedigree, and has fought one guy who could even come close to being considered in the same class as any of Brock's opponents to date(besides the one he had in Japan). He beat Gonzaga and....Who? Brock avenged his only loss to Mir in devastating fashion, beat Herring who is always game(he gave Minotauro a run for his money before getting caught in a sub not long before the Brock fight), and beat Couture who asked for that fight himself. Couture was embroiled in a legal battle and let it rest because he asked for Lesnar by name.
As far as JDS goes, he's a great striker and he's going to have some success, but lets not kid ourselves. Brock Lesnar or Cain Valasquez trying to take you down is way different from Gabriel Gonzaga. Lets hold off yet before we proclaim Cigano has an elite sprawl. Believe me I'm very excited to see where he goes from here, but I'll not pretend like we know ANYTHING about his ground game other than he was able to pop up and shrug off a Gabriel Gonzaga takedown attempt, when Gonzaga thought he could strike.
Overall the card was great for a free one. Tons of exciting finishes. Yeah there were the gay 12 to 6 elbows called while Kongo was dropping elbows on Pauls ass/thigh and the knee to the head was legit. But how was anyone supposed to know Irvin would be a huge pussy, Kongo would still not understand the rules, and Vera would break the rules? My only complaint on the card besides the above would be a way to have seen more of the undercard than just Howard/Roberts.
Yeah beating Vera doesn't bump you into the top five. But he's easily top ten now by destroying Vera like he did. Vera had NO answers off his back, which until he started thinking his Muay Thai was top notch was supposed to be his best position for a win.
I think that's a tremendous overstatement to say that Vera had "no answers" for Jones. I thought it was a very even fight on the ground. Jones just happened to land a good shot that I'm not very sure he could ever do again.
Yeah cause holding someone's wrist while your getting tagged alot with the other hand means you have some answers.
Yeah cause holding someone's wrist while your getting tagged alot with the other hand means you have some answers.
I don't even know what you're saying. That's basically par for the course though.
http://www.mmascraps.com/2010/03/jon-jo ... fc-on.html (http://www.mmascraps.com/2010/03/jon-jones-vs-brandon-vera-video-ufc-on.html)
Watch the fight some time.
Mr. IWS
03-22-2010, 09:26 AM
Looks like everyone got paid last night. Nice job.
BTW, how the fuck did Cro Cop last so long with JDS? He should get a 1/2 win for that.
MMA_scientist
03-22-2010, 10:35 AM
+ .10
Underdogs ftl. I won on Kongo and Pierce, lost on Marshall and Vera.
Going back to my old ways...
Yeah cause holding someone's wrist while your getting tagged alot with the other hand means you have some answers.
I would agree for the most part. I wouldn't be as harsh as saying "no answers" because up until the elbow from hell he was defending okay, but he was clearly getting worked Bones was making him look like a bitch.
Looks like everyone got paid last night. Nice job.
We actually ended up on Kongo together. After the fucking fiasco that was the Irvin fight I dropped 5u on Kongo to cover the loss. A hail mary play, I know, but it worked out this time around.
BTW, how the fuck did Cro Cop last so long with JDS? He should get a 1/2 win for that.
JDS respected him too much. . .
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Underdogs ftl. I won on Kongo and Pierce, lost on Marshall and Vera.
What happened with Vera?
Why don't you give us some post-fight analysis?
Going back to my old ways...
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
Interesting article on Buentello's pinky dislocation and Irvin's future (or lack thereof) at 185:
It was another one of those nights for the officials in the UFC. Referee Josh Rosenthal got it right in the James Irvin fight but Colorado officials and ref Herb Dean made a judgement error in the Paul Buentello-Cheick Kongo fight according to UFC president Dana White.
In the second round, Buentello appeared to injure a finger.The fight was stopped while doctors looked at the hand. Then they appeared to pop the finger back into place.
"If he couldn't continue right there, you can't come in [and call timeout]," said White, who thought Buentello broke the finger. I actually appeared to be a dislocation. Dean paused the fight because he thought there was an equipment malfunction with the glove. He was wrong. If Buentello had a dislocated finger and needed medical care, the fight should've been given to Kongo with a TKO victory.
White also talked about the futures of Duane Ludwig and Irvin. He was unsure on Ludwig, who reportedly suffered a severe ankle break. He was positive with Irvin, that he wouldn't be at middleweight again.
"He looked terrible at the weigh-ins. There was [expletive] coming out of his face. I didn't know if it was skull or scar tissue or what it was."
White said it was reflected in his performance against Alessio Sakara.
"Tonight it looked like the 85 cut killed him. He couldn't get off. He was basically getting lit up by Sakara. That's not James Irvin. That's not who he is as a fighter."
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewr ... mma,229373 (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/UFC-postfight-Officials-screw-up-in-Buentello-f?urn=mma,229373)
Gotta love: "There was [expletive] coming out of his face. I didn't know if it was skull or scar tissue or what it was."
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Underdogs ftl. I won on Kongo and Pierce, lost on Marshall and Vera.
Going back to my old ways...
You know, I was thinking and maybe you should just restrict your underdog bets to fractions of a unit? I mean, at +210, with only a 1/2 unit bet you'd have picked up over a unit on the Vera fight and a loss would have only costed you half a u.
Where the fuck is everybody?
There is entirely too little post-event discussion going on here today. . .
MMA_scientist
03-22-2010, 12:25 PM
What happened with Vera?
Why don't you give us some post-fight analysis?
I honestly was not too worried about the takedowns. Vera said on the countdown show that he was wasting a lot of time stuffing takedowns and that he was just going to let himself be taken down if that is what his opponent's want. he was defending pretty well, up until the death blow.
Jones did not want to stike with him, which is where I thought the fight would happen. Vera didn't really even attempt to defend. Jones has some nasty GNP though.
I am not sure why Vera is always smiling after his losses.
MMA_scientist
03-22-2010, 12:27 PM
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Underdogs ftl. I won on Kongo and Pierce, lost on Marshall and Vera.
Going back to my old ways...
You know, I was thinking and maybe you should just restrict your underdog bets to fractions of a unit? I mean, at +210, with only a 1/2 unit bet you'd have picked up over a unit on the Vera fight and a loss would have only costed you half a u.
Yeah, in hindsight, that would have been a good idea. Although, I really thought Vera should have been the slight favorite, or maybe even, so I thought there was a lot of value there and wanted to cash it in.
I honestly was not too worried about the takedowns. Vera said on the countdown show that he was wasting a lot of time stuffing takedowns and that he was just going to let himself be taken down if that is what his opponent's want. he was defending pretty well, up until the death blow.
Jones did not want to stike with him, which is where I thought the fight would happen. Vera didn't really even attempt to defend. Jones has some nasty GNP though.
Indeed. Well I figured if Jones was able to take him down then Vera wouldn't be able to do much on the ground. I had not heard Vera say that he was going to allow himself to be taken down, but if I had then I'd have been that much more confident in Jones. Like you, my concern was Vera outpointing Jones on the feet.
I am not sure why Vera is always smiling after his losses.
He wasn't smiling after the Couture fight, that's for sure.
Mr. IWS
03-22-2010, 12:35 PM
Props to Jones bringing out the rape choke a couple times last night. That shit always gives me a laugh.
I loved the "get your thumb out of his throat" from Herb Dean.
Where the fuck is everybody?
There is entirely too little post-event discussion going on here today. . .
Its monday everyones at work lol
Its monday everyones at work lol
Me too! Hell, that's where I get most of my posting done around here. . .
Looks like everyone got paid last night. Nice job.
BTW, how the fuck did Cro Cop last so long with JDS? He should get a 1/2 win for that.
Picked up a unit on JDS and a unit on a Pierce/Guida parlay
Its monday everyones at work lol
Me too! Hell, that's where I get most of my posting done around here. . .
LOL me too ::lmao::
I usually get all my work done for the day in the mornings then the last 2-3 hours I play on the internet all day
Svino
03-22-2010, 05:53 PM
Well I figured if Jones was able to take him down then Vera wouldn't be able to do much on the ground. I had not heard Vera say that he was going to allow himself to be taken down, but if I had then I'd have been that much more confident in Jones. Like you, my concern was Vera outpointing Jones on the feet.
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I heard Vera's comment but I didn't pay any attention to it, and I think it was correct not to. I never listen much to what fighters and their camps say to the media prefight. They only say stuff for the purposes of hyping the fight and trying to get inside their opponent's head; giving quality info to bettors is not on the list. The classic line is when a fighter who is at a clear disadvantage on the feet says he's happy to stand and trade. Funny, I didn't notice Gonzaga hesitate to go for that takedown. So I don't believe for a minute that Vera wasn't training the hell out of his takedown defense last month, he just didn't have the skill to stay up. Smart fighters don't give out information on their strategy before the fight, and Brandon Vera probably doesn't either.
I thought Vera had a decent chance to keep it standing and use his more technical striking on Jones. IMO, the possibility of him getting a sub on the ground only made a small contribution to his winning chances. As soon as Jones showed he could toss Vera around, I thought he had the fight.
And I gotta say, I think Jones pretty much deserves the hype train he's going to get now. In his last two fights he's shown that he has:
1) Wicked takedowns, even against guys with established takedown defense.
2) Extremely pointy elbows.
Whatever you make of his wacky striking, those two things could take him very far in this game. And even if he does have a weakness to submissions, who is he going to run into that has the skills to exploit it? Vera clearly wasn't the guy, and it's not like he's in the MW division (with Palhares and Maia) or the HW division (Mir, Big Nog, Gonzaga). LHW doesn't have a ton of top BJJ talent. Maybe Little Nog would be a problem for him.
rating for Versus' first UFC fight: 0.6 rating/727K homes/1.2M viewers, placing it in 959th place for the week among cable shows.
rating for Versus' first UFC fight: 0.6 rating/727K homes/1.2M viewers, placing it in 959th place for the week among cable shows.
What the fuck? How many fucking shows are there even?
rating for Versus' first UFC fight: 0.6 rating/727K homes/1.2M viewers, placing it in 959th place for the week among cable shows.
What the fuck? How many fucking shows are there even?
I have no idea .Theres 100 cable channels and each channel probably has a 100 shows a week so 10k? Thats just a complete guess though
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