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SPX
02-15-2010, 09:44 PM
This line might have moved before you fucks get here, but:

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/2146.png

I'm gonna hold off, let the money come in on Shogun and then hop on Lyoto, hopefully once he gets down around -130.

Ludo
02-15-2010, 10:26 PM
I don't like the look of this fight the second time around for Machida. Shoguns gameplan put him in a place he didn't know how to handle. He won a RAZOR thin decision and could barely walk by the end of it. The only reason Shogun didn't push things more is because through the whole fight his corner kept telling him he was winning.
Second time around who knows if Machida has somehow managed to adapt the style he's used his entire career into something else to counteract Shogun's uncharacteristic gameplan for the first fight. If anything I'd say put your money(just not alot of it) on Shogun, but this one has so many unknown variables I'm not going near it.

zY|
02-15-2010, 10:28 PM
Most important, highest level, evenly matched fight of the year. Will be decided by intangibles. I'm staying away unless either guy becomes a significant underdog.

Luke
02-15-2010, 11:04 PM
I'd take Machida. He is just so much faster than shogun imo .I think Machida took him lightly the first time . I expect him to win again

zY|
02-15-2010, 11:12 PM
I'd take Machida. He is just so much faster than shogun imo .I think Machida took him lightly the first time . I expect him to win again

I don't think he's any faster than Shogun.

Luke
02-15-2010, 11:15 PM
I'd take Machida. He is just so much faster than shogun imo .I think Machida took him lightly the first time . I expect him to win again

I don't think he's any faster than Shogun.


I do .But thats just my opinion

SPX
02-16-2010, 11:41 AM
I do .But thats just my opinion

Well ultimately it's a matter of physics. He's either faster or he's not.

SPX
02-16-2010, 11:41 AM
I'm surprised to see that Lyoto is now -190 on Bookmaker. Opposite direction than I expected the line to move.

Mr. IWS
02-16-2010, 12:02 PM
Most important, highest level, evenly matched fight of the year. Will be decided by intangibles.

agreed.

I will sit back an enjoy this one.

zY|
02-16-2010, 12:40 PM
I do .But thats just my opinion

Well ultimately it's a matter of physics. He's either faster or he's not.

::lmao::

You're wrong! It's Luke's opinion vs mine!

UKDonkbet
02-16-2010, 07:00 PM
Speed is prob even or close to slight edge to one or the other. Machida is way more elusive so he might use his speed better

Luke
02-16-2010, 07:16 PM
KOS vs Daley also on this card.Anyone got a line prediction for this fight?

zY|
02-16-2010, 07:24 PM
KOS vs Daley also on this card.Anyone got a line prediction for this fight?

Kos -170

Luke
02-16-2010, 07:38 PM
KOS vs Daley also on this card.Anyone got a line prediction for this fight?

Kos -170


I think you misread .Those are Machidas odds . What do you think KOS will be?

poopoo333
02-16-2010, 07:40 PM
Kos opened at -275. He is now at -340

Luke
02-16-2010, 07:44 PM
Kos opened at -275. He is now at -340


good job man just saw it thanks ::handshake::

Luke
02-16-2010, 07:46 PM
Kimbo and KOS lines up


http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/247.png

SPX
02-16-2010, 08:45 PM
Just dropped .75u on Daley at +260.

Daley has a MUCH better chance that that line indicates, in my opinion. If he comes out like he did against Rumble, then Kos is going to want to at least test his stiking against Daley's initially, and that will give Daley the chance he needs to put Kos to sleep. Also, as I've said before, I think Daley's TD defense is underrated, so even if Kos goes for the takedown he might have a harder time getting it than he imagines.

zY|
02-17-2010, 04:09 AM
KOS vs Daley also on this card.Anyone got a line prediction for this fight?

Kos -170


I think you misread .Those are Machidas odds . What do you think KOS will be?

No that was my guess.

Wow at those odds!! I think he wins but I'm with SPX, no way should he be that huge of a favorite.

zY|
02-17-2010, 04:11 AM
Also Meathead is probably going to knock Kimbo out. I don't really see any advantage Kimbo has. Mitrione is way bigger with more power and a better chin. Both are shit on the ground.

Luke
03-02-2010, 06:40 PM
Whats your guys thoughts on Cote-Belcher?

SPX
03-02-2010, 06:49 PM
Been a while since I've seen a Cote fight and my memory's foggy, but I think this one could go either way. Cote has more power, but Belcher is more well-rounded. In fact, I think Belcher's a pretty underrated fighter. Not only does he have good standup, but he also has a solid ground/sub game. I already threw .75u down on Belcher at +125, but who knows who will win it. All in all though, I have to give Belcher an edge because of his overall skillset and the fact that Cote has had a relatively long layoff, but he's going to have to fight smart. Cote has a granite chin so he needs to control himself enough to not get into a brawl like he did with Gouveia.

Luke
03-02-2010, 06:52 PM
I like Cote but I just dont know with the long layoff.

Ludo
03-03-2010, 12:32 AM
That layoff is likely going to be Cote's kryptonite. Belcher is no pushover and he's got some serious strikes. I see Belcher winning that one.