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Mr. IWS
03-23-2010, 06:06 PM
will update odds when the become available of course.

::thumbup::

Luke
03-23-2010, 06:08 PM
I'm wondering the chicks line .Better not be some -600 shit again

Mr. IWS
03-23-2010, 06:11 PM
Im curious to see that Cormier line.

zY|
03-23-2010, 06:22 PM
Let's see, I recognize Miesha Tate, Abongo Humphrey, and Andre Galvao. Who the fuck are these people on these cards?

Mr. IWS
03-23-2010, 06:23 PM
Let's see, I recognize, Abongo Humphrey,

You watched Iron ring on BET too?

Mr. IWS
03-23-2010, 06:24 PM
Dan Cormier is a bad ass in the making IMO. Olympic wrestler, finished 4th.

zY|
03-23-2010, 06:26 PM
[quote="zY|":3joc5ab4]Let's see, I recognize, Abongo Humphrey,

You watched Iron ring on BET too?[/quote:3joc5ab4]

rofl

No, I just remember Brett Rogers trying to rip his hair out before brutally beating him down.

MMA_scientist
03-24-2010, 10:18 AM
Well it is about damn time. Finally.

I am looking at Cormier and Galvao...

Lines have to come out today, right?

Mr. IWS
03-24-2010, 10:24 AM
I hope so. If the line isnt crazy, I would get some on Cormier.

SPX
03-24-2010, 09:13 PM
Here, fools:

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/253.png

Luke
03-24-2010, 09:16 PM
Here, fools:

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/253.png




George Bush is fighting? So thats what ex presidents do in their spare time these days?

Luke
03-24-2010, 09:17 PM
I'll be honest I dont know much about any of these guys

SPX
03-24-2010, 09:19 PM
I'll be honest I dont know much about any of these guys

Yeah, I've heard of almost none of them.

Luke
03-24-2010, 11:05 PM
Watched some videos

Miesha Tate-very good ground game and former HS wrestler ,just ok striking ,fought a good fight against Champ Sarah Kaufman

Zoila Frausto-very good leg striking (think Cung Le) ,not much punching ,zero ground game (think Cung Le),not very good takedown defense, is 2 inches shorter and the natually smaller fighter,fight is in her home town

If Meisha can stay away from the crazy kicks of Zoila and get takedowns she should win


but I aint betting it lol

zY|
03-25-2010, 12:25 AM
I know that Meisha Tate has a great ass.

Mr. IWS
03-25-2010, 08:40 AM
No Cormier yet? WTF!

MMA_scientist
03-25-2010, 02:06 PM
4u on Galvao @ -315

wating on Cormier...

poopoo333
03-25-2010, 02:16 PM
I think Cormier will open up high, probably -450 to -500.

MMA_scientist
03-25-2010, 02:20 PM
If Cormier opens -400, I will probably drop another unit on Galvao.

Even with only 4 fights, Galvao has already beaten better competition that Stewart. He submitted Alessio. IMO he beat High, but got screwed by the Japanese judges.

poopoo333
03-25-2010, 02:22 PM
4u on Galvao @ -315

wating on Cormier...

I just copied you :)

MMA_scientist
03-25-2010, 02:27 PM
I went ahead and dropped another unit. I think Galvao will make short work of him. Stewart might not even have a standup advantage.

MMA_scientist
03-26-2010, 09:31 AM
I guess they are not going to let us bet on Cormier.

SPX
03-26-2010, 10:46 AM
My good friend Mike Hammersmith showed up in another of my threads yesterday and said he thinks that Miesha Tate is criminally undervalued at her current price. He does sometimes make some good picks so I'm thinking of parlaying her with Galvao.

MMA_scientist
03-26-2010, 10:51 AM
My good friend Mike Hammersmith showed up in another of my threads yesterday and said he thinks that Miesha Tate is criminally undervalued at her current price. He does sometimes make some good picks so I'm thinking of parlaying her with Galvao.

I think he is way too tight with his lines, but I do get a lot out of his breakdowns. His UFC 111 breakdown is up at mmamafia

I don't know anything about women's mma (nor do I care to) so I can't tell you about Meisha Tate.

Mr. IWS
03-26-2010, 10:52 AM
My good friend Mike Hammersmith showed up in another of my threads yesterday and said he thinks that Miesha Tate is criminally undervalued at her current price. He does sometimes make some good picks so I'm thinking of parlaying her with Galvao.

You should get him over here. He seems like he does know his shit, and he does some good analysis.

SPX
03-26-2010, 10:54 AM
You should get him over here. He seems like he does know his shit, and he does some good analysis.

I'm not sure I'd want him around here. . .

SPX
03-26-2010, 10:55 AM
I don't know anything about women's mma (nor do I care to) so I can't tell you about Meisha Tate.

Why not?

zY|
03-26-2010, 10:57 AM
Yeah Yvel vs JDS is a 50/50 proposition.

SPX
03-26-2010, 11:05 AM
Yeah Yvel vs JDS is a 50/50 proposition.

And Kampmann was "unlikely to win" against Volkmann.

I actually said some shit to him about that when he popped up in my thread the other day and his response was: "Just because a bet pans out doesn't mean it was a smart bet. . ."

zY|
03-26-2010, 11:11 AM
Yeah Yvel vs JDS is a 50/50 proposition.

And Kampmann was "unlikely to win" against Volkmann.

I actually said some shit to him about that when he popped up in my thread the other day and his response was: "Just because a bet pans out doesn't mean it was a smart bet. . ."

LOL yeah. 2 dominant 1st round obliterations later.

After watching it, I don't think Yvel would beat JDS if they fought a million times.

MMA_scientist
03-26-2010, 11:14 AM
I don't know anything about women's mma (nor do I care to) so I can't tell you about Meisha Tate.

Why not?

Because I don't like it.

For the same reasons you don't like WNBA.

SPX
03-26-2010, 11:15 AM
Because I don't like it.

For the same reasons you don't like WNBA.

Who said I don't like the WNBA. . .?

MMA_scientist
03-26-2010, 11:22 AM
Because I don't like it.

For the same reasons you don't like WNBA.

Who said I don't like the WNBA. . .?


It's an exercise in logic.

1. ALL humans dislike WBNA
2. SPX is human
3. SPX dislikes WNBA

SPX
03-26-2010, 11:24 AM
It's an exercise in logic.

1. ALL humans dislike WBNA
2. SPX is human
3. SPX dislikes WNBA

Lulz.

Okay, that's pretty funny.

In all seriousness, I just don't pay attention to it. But I do like women's MMA. They're aggressive as hell and always bring it. What they lack in technical skills they make up for with intensity.

And they're fun to look at.

Mr. IWS
03-26-2010, 11:27 AM
I'm not sure I'd want him around here. . .

I figured I would check with you before I sent and invite his way. ::handshake::

SPX
03-26-2010, 11:32 AM
I figured I would check with you before I sent and invite his way. ::handshake::

Much appreciated.

Of course, you can if you want.

zY|
03-26-2010, 11:57 AM
It's an exercise in logic.

1. ALL humans dislike WBNA
2. SPX is human
3. SPX dislikes WNBA

Lulz.

Okay, that's pretty funny.

In all seriousness, I just don't pay attention to it. But I do like women's MMA. They're aggressive as hell and always bring it. What they lack in technical skills they make up for with intensity.

And they're fun to look at.

So why don't you like WNBA?

It's because they're black, isn't it?

Taller than you?

Cmon, don't leave the people wonting.

SPX
03-26-2010, 12:08 PM
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss341/fonzdj/Fighters/mt02.jpg




VS





http://www.mysportsgeeks.com/Pics/zoilafrausto.jpg

zY|
03-26-2010, 12:10 PM
Damn I hadn't seen Zoila.

Nice.

Mr. IWS
03-26-2010, 01:28 PM
http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MorningQuickies21.png

Luke
03-26-2010, 01:31 PM
My good friend Mike Hammersmith showed up in another of my threads yesterday and said he thinks that Miesha Tate is criminally undervalued at her current price. He does sometimes make some good picks so I'm thinking of parlaying her with Galvao.

I think he is way too tight with his lines, but I do get a lot out of his breakdowns. His UFC 111 breakdown is up at mmamafia

I don't know anything about women's mma (nor do I care to) so I can't tell you about Meisha Tate.


I love watching womens MMA but thats just me

Luke
03-26-2010, 01:36 PM
My good friend Mike Hammersmith showed up in another of my threads yesterday and said he thinks that Miesha Tate is criminally undervalued at her current price. He does sometimes make some good picks so I'm thinking of parlaying her with Galvao.


I think your friends wrong and I would bet Zoila or nothing in this fight. Zoila is 10X the striker of Tate and as long as Zoila can stuff a few takedowns shes going to win easily .I watched some more tape on it last night and Meisha cant strike for anything .Like I said before Zoila reminds me of a womens version of Cung Le. If Zoila can stay back and throw kicks and avoid the takedown she wins this easily. Tate is anything but undervalued imo

MMA_scientist
03-26-2010, 03:33 PM
I love watching womens MMA but thats just me

Nothing appealing about watching a couple of uggos slop through a fight in slow-mo...

SPX
03-26-2010, 03:35 PM
Nothing appealing about watching a couple of uggos slop through a fight in slow-mo...

Dude, leave this forum and come back when you can tell the truth. . .

Luke
03-26-2010, 04:41 PM
I love watching womens MMA but thats just me

Nothing appealing about watching a couple of uggos slop through a fight in slow-mo...


How on earth could anyone rather watch this wrestle around on the floor ?

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t233/luke1899/kimbo-slice.jpg




than this:

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t233/luke1899/20090814052503_02carano_JPG_.jpg

SPX
03-26-2010, 04:42 PM
Luke has a point. . .

zY|
03-26-2010, 09:49 PM
When does this start?

Luke
03-26-2010, 09:52 PM
When does this start?


11:45pm eastern


I'm not betting anything but I'm calling upset of Tate by Zoila

SPX
03-26-2010, 09:55 PM
11:45pm eastern


I'm not betting anything but I'm calling upset of Tate by Zoila

I was going to do a Tate/Galvao parlay but you--and GuidaClayAllDay--on the Junkie forum have scared me away.

zY|
03-26-2010, 09:58 PM
Christ why the bloody fuck does it start so late? I don't care that much.

Tate will win easily.

Luke
03-26-2010, 09:59 PM
Christ why the bloody fuck does it start so late? I don't care that much.


NCAA basketball ::handshake::

zY|
03-26-2010, 10:01 PM
Christ why the bloody fuck does it start so late? I don't care that much.


NCAA basketball ::handshake::

Nah don't they normally start this late?

Speaking of basketball my bracket is goddamn FUBARd, as I'm sure most are.

Luke
03-26-2010, 10:03 PM
11:45pm eastern


I'm not betting anything but I'm calling upset of Tate by Zoila

I was going to do a Tate/Galvao parlay but you--and GuidaClayAllDay--on the Junkie forum have scared me away.


I watched every fight I could find on both fighters .Tate is slow on here feet and cant strike , Zoila is fast on her feet and strikes like a crazy person.Tate is suppose to be a great wrestler but was only able to take down Kauffman once who has no ground game just like Zoila .

Do want you want man I'm not betting this and only going off wht I have found out in the last 24 hours. I could be way off but I'm not betting it so I really dont care

Luke
03-26-2010, 10:04 PM
[quote="zY|":34do81gb]Christ why the bloody fuck does it start so late? I don't care that much.


NCAA basketball ::handshake::

Nah don't they normally start this late?

Speaking of basketball my bracket is goddamn FUBARd, as I'm sure most are.[/quote:34do81gb]


They start late but I dont ever remember them starting at almost midnight,I could be wrong though


I lost the first game of the tourney on my bracket

nuff said ::handshake::

Svino
03-26-2010, 10:11 PM
[quote="zY|":z5srq386]Christ why the bloody fuck does it start so late? I don't care that much.


NCAA basketball ::handshake::

Nah don't they normally start this late?

Speaking of basketball my bracket is goddamn FUBARd, as I'm sure most are.[/quote:z5srq386]

I'm sure Showtime has much higher rated programming than "Strikeforce Challengers" that they want to show on a Friday night.

Luke
03-26-2010, 10:15 PM
I'm sure Showtime has much higher rated programming than "Strikeforce Challengers" that they want to show on a Friday night.


You mean not everyone wants to watch Strikeforce Challengers on a Friday night?


Who knew?

zY|
03-26-2010, 10:17 PM
I'm sure Showtime has much higher rated programming than "Strikeforce Challengers" that they want to show on a Friday night.

Yeah like reruns of Delta Farce.

I swear Showtime is the worst channel ever.

poopoo333
03-26-2010, 10:44 PM
4u on Galvao @ -300
2u on Galvao @- 310

So a total of 6u on Galvao!

Luke
03-27-2010, 12:05 AM
Down goes the ref down goes the ref LOL

zY|
03-27-2010, 12:19 AM
Mauro is a clown. My stream is choppy and shitty too.

poopoo333
03-27-2010, 12:33 AM
Man I hope these fights don't go the distance, I am tired as hell.

Luke
03-27-2010, 12:42 AM
Mauro is a clown. My stream is choppy and shitty too.


sorry man .check out justintv and see if someone has it on a better stream

Luke
03-27-2010, 12:43 AM
Zoila sucks

I am stupid

Sorry SPX

carry on ::handshake::

Luke
03-27-2010, 12:45 AM
Miesha Tate-very good ground game and former HS wrestler ,just ok striking ,fought a good fight against Champ Sarah Kaufman

Zoila Frausto-very good leg striking (think Cung Le) ,not much punching ,zero ground game (think Cung Le),not very good takedown defense, is 2 inches shorter and the natually smaller fighter,fight is in her home town

If Meisha can stay away from the crazy kicks of Zoila and get takedowns she should win


::lmao:: I was right the first time

Good thing I aint betting these lol

zY|
03-27-2010, 12:59 AM
More submissions please.

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:17 AM
Wow that Galvo guy is a joke . Ive never seen someone sweeped 3+ times while on top in the same fight


Nice scorecard


Cecil Peoples in the house????

SPX
03-27-2010, 01:17 AM
I'm sure Showtime has much higher rated programming than "Strikeforce Challengers" that they want to show on a Friday night.

Yeah like reruns of Delta Farce.

I swear Showtime is the worst channel ever.

Dude, Showtime has Dexter, Weeds, The Tudors. . .

So no.

Svino
03-27-2010, 01:19 AM
I was pretty confident Galvao was going to get that decision. I know it's a cliche, but this is going to be one of those "watch it with the sound off fights". I have no idea what fight the announcers were watching.

poopoo333
03-27-2010, 01:20 AM
PHEW!

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:20 AM
I'm sure Showtime has much higher rated programming than "Strikeforce Challengers" that they want to show on a Friday night.

Yeah like reruns of Delta Farce.

I swear Showtime is the worst channel ever.

Dude, Showtime has Dexter, Weeds, The Tudors. . .

So no.


I have showtime and never seen any of those shows. To tell the truth I dont watch anything on HBO or Showtime .I only have them for MMA/Boxing

poopoo333
03-27-2010, 01:21 AM
I was pretty confident Galvao was going to get that decision. I know it's a cliche, but this is going to be one of those "watch it with the sound off fights". I have no idea what fight the announcers were watching.

Yeah, it was close, but I can definitely see how Galvao won. Luckily for me, he did.

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:22 AM
I was pretty confident Galvao was going to get that decision. I know it's a cliche, but this is going to be one of those "watch it with the sound off fights". I have no idea what fight the announcers were watching.


I had it 2-1 for the guy with the tats .3-0 for Galvao is a complete joke .

I know alot of you guys had Galvao so I'm happy you won but I dont think he deserved the decision

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:25 AM
I was pretty confident Galvao was going to get that decision. I know it's a cliche, but this is going to be one of those "watch it with the sound off fights". I have no idea what fight the announcers were watching.

Yeah, it was close, but I can definitely see how Galvao won. Luckily for me, he did.


You guys are biased since you had money on it .

You got lucky ,I've got a gift decision before (Holyfield-Oquendo,Toney-Rahman and Forrest-Quartey )come to mind

zY|
03-27-2010, 01:25 AM
Yeah like reruns of Delta Farce.

I swear Showtime is the worst channel ever.

Dude, Showtime has Dexter, Weeds, The Tudors. . .

So no.


I have showtime and never seen any of those shows. To tell the truth I dont watch anything on HBO or Showtime .I only have them for MMA/Boxing


Yeah I've never heard of any of those shows either. Showtime is dog shit and everyone knows it. I ordered it for a few months for strikeforce but it was so godawful any other time that I didn't renew it.

I wasn't paying enough attention to that fight to see who won.

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:26 AM
SPX did you end up betting anything??

Svino
03-27-2010, 01:27 AM
I could very well be wrong (I'd have to watch it again), but I think Galvao had more takedowns, spent more time in dominant positions, and landed more total strikes.

Granted, he got swept several times - his JJ did not impress at all. I was disappointed there.

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:27 AM
Yeah I've never heard of any of those shows either. Showtime is dog shit and everyone knows it. I ordered it for a few months for strikeforce but it was so godawful any other time that I didn't renew it.

I wasn't paying enough attention to that fight to see who won.


Were on some promo where we buy both for the price of one but you're right they suck,if it wasnt for my boxing I'd shut them off in a second

zY|
03-27-2010, 01:28 AM
WAR ABONGO

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:31 AM
I could very well be wrong (I'd have to watch it again), but I think Galvao had more takedowns, spent more time in dominant positions, and landed more total strikes.

Granted, he got swept several times - his JJ did not impress at all. I was disappointed there.


He didnt impress me either .I thought Stewart landed more strikes but I could be wrong .

But I'd rather be wrong and people here win money anyday ::handshake::

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:31 AM
WAR ABONGO


Bongo bongo didnt mess around lol

SPX
03-27-2010, 01:33 AM
I have showtime and never seen any of those shows.

Well that's just ridiculous.

Go watch Dexter. It will change your life.

Start at season 1 though. . .

SPX
03-27-2010, 01:35 AM
SPX did you end up betting anything??

No, I stayed away completely. . .

zY|
03-27-2010, 01:35 AM
I have showtime and never seen any of those shows.

Well that's just ridiculous.

Go watch Dexter. It will change your life.

Start at season 1 though. . .

Actually I have heard of Dexter and everyone raves about it, but I already watch too many shows to keep up with. Don't want to start another.

SPX
03-27-2010, 01:37 AM
Actually I have heard of Dexter and everyone raves about it, but I already watch too many shows to keep up with. Don't want to start another.

I actually watch very few shows. Like, basically nothing. But Dexter is the shit.

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:38 AM
I watch Law and Order SVU and CSI Miami every week ,thats it

Whats Dexter about??????

SPX
03-27-2010, 01:43 AM
I watch Law and Order SVU and CSI Miami every week ,thats it

Whats Dexter about??????

It's essentially about a serial killer who lives by a code . . . he doesn't just kill indiscriminately. And he wants to change his ways. He also plays the role of family man. You'd just have to watch it.

But like I said, start at season 1.

Oh, and at least in my opinion, it's a lot better than CSI or L&O.

zY|
03-27-2010, 01:46 AM
Entourage, Scrubs, House, The Office, NCIS, 30 Rock, Always Sunny, probably some others I'm forgetting.

I don't keep up with them all anymore, freakin ridiculous.

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:48 AM
SPX did you end up betting anything??

No, I stayed away completely. . .


so did I but I never had any intention of betting anything

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:51 AM
Entourage, Scrubs, House, The Office, NCIS, 30 Rock, Always Sunny, probably some others I'm forgetting.

I don't keep up with them all anymore, freakin ridiculous.


My GF watches like 20 shows every week .Hell if I did want to tape something I couldnt because shes using both DVR's at all times

zY|
03-27-2010, 01:52 AM
Why is this the main event? This fight sucks so much shit. Two sloppy out of shape convicts stumbling around "trading bombs". Who the hell are these clowns?

SPX
03-27-2010, 01:53 AM
Entourage, Scrubs, House, The Office, NCIS, 30 Rock, Always Sunny, probably some others I'm forgetting.

I don't keep up with them all anymore, freakin ridiculous.

I don't watch any of that shit regularly.

I do watch the Office when a season's released on Netflix.

Luke
03-27-2010, 01:55 AM
Why is this the main event? This fight sucks so much shit. Two sloppy out of shape convicts stumbling around "trading bombs". Who the hell are these clowns?


Its Mir-Carwin tomorrow lol

zY|
03-27-2010, 01:58 AM
Entourage, Scrubs, House, The Office, NCIS, 30 Rock, Always Sunny, probably some others I'm forgetting.

I don't keep up with them all anymore, freakin ridiculous.

I don't watch any of that shit regularly.

I do watch the Office when a season's released on Netflix.

Yeah I just steal everything and watch it later.

zY|
03-27-2010, 01:59 AM
Why is this the main event? This fight sucks so much shit. Two sloppy out of shape convicts stumbling around "trading bombs". Who the hell are these clowns?


Its Mir-Carwin tomorrow lol

Good lord I hope not.

Luke
03-27-2010, 02:19 AM
[quote="zY|":24rzfmm8]Why is this the main event? This fight sucks so much shit. Two sloppy out of shape convicts stumbling around "trading bombs". Who the hell are these clowns?


Its Mir-Carwin tomorrow lol

Good lord I hope not.[/quote:24rzfmm8]


I honestly wouldnt be surprised if it was. When the last time Mir or Carwin went more than a round?

I can see them both gassing like these two bums did

zY|
03-27-2010, 02:24 AM
Its Mir-Carwin tomorrow lol

Good lord I hope not.


I honestly wouldnt be surprised if it was. When the last time Mir or Carwin went more than a round?

I can see them both gassing like these two bums did

Yeah. Fucking heavyweights are all bums with about 7 minutes of gas.

That one reason alone is enough for Cain to beat the fuck out of just about everyone.

Luke
03-27-2010, 02:29 AM
i was being serious this could be Mir-Carwin tomorrow.Anyway I'm off to bed

Mr. IWS
03-27-2010, 11:03 AM
As expected, Cormier starched some dude. Missed the boat on this one, but that dude is a fuckin beast.

poopoo333
03-27-2010, 11:06 AM
+1.98 units

Svino
03-27-2010, 03:21 PM
As expected, Cormier starched some dude. Missed the boat on this one, but that dude is a fuckin beast.

Wish we could have seen that televised. :-/

zY|
04-01-2010, 10:40 PM
As expected, Cormier starched some dude. Missed the boat on this one, but that dude is a fuckin beast.

Wish we could have seen that televised. :-/

From the stands, via Cormier's twitter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkEVNoMKFdE

Svino
04-02-2010, 02:19 AM
Thanks. Looks like that dude was circling into Cormier's power with his left hand kinda lazy.