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Taking Evander Holyfield over Frans Botha @ -230 to win 2 units
4.6 units to win 2
GL ::handshake::
MMA_scientist
04-08-2010, 05:32 PM
How can you consistently call a winner here? They are both over the hill... either one of them could have an arthritic fit or sudden brain aneurysm.
Seriously, can Holyfield even get cleared to fight anymore?
He's the big green machine or some shit now. He's recycling, and we know recycling makes things better!
Mr. IWS
04-08-2010, 05:46 PM
Holyfield, for as old as he is, hasnt looked that bad all things considered in his last few fights.
Mr. IWS
04-08-2010, 05:51 PM
FWIW, i actually thought he beat Valuev in his last fight.
MMA_scientist
04-08-2010, 05:52 PM
So does everyone else agree with this play? I am committed to learning boxing, but I find it sort of boring without the bets involved. So I am going to ride with Luke for a while until I can bear to watch it enough to learn the fighters...
FWIW, i actually thought he beat Valuev in his last fight.
He did beat Valuev but in Germany its well known that any remotely close round goes to the hometown guy
Mr. IWS
04-08-2010, 05:57 PM
FWIW, i actually thought he beat Valuev in his last fight.
He did beat Valuev but in Germany its well known that any remotely close round goes to the hometown guy
Im pretty sure we talked about that back when that fight went down. Ashame, Im pretty sure that was for a belt too.
How can you consistently call a winner here? They are both over the hill... either one of them could have an arthritic fit or sudden brain aneurysm.
Seriously, can Holyfield even get cleared to fight anymore?
The sameway Couture and Coleman get cleared I guess.
I personally think a 57 year old Holyfield could beat Botha.Botha will throw slow wild power shotsand Holyfield will stick and move for 12 rounds.
Botha is out of shape and has only fought 4 times in the last 8 years. Theres still money to be made with Holyfield .I think this is a paycheck fight for Botha
MMA scientist if you want a boxing bet that wont lose to get you started watching boxing take Mayweather
southbaysurf
04-08-2010, 06:06 PM
Mayweather by decision is much better value in my opinion. I don't think PBF winning is a lock though and can't lay
- 350 or -400. He hasn't looked that great. JMM was just way undersized.
Mr. IWS
04-08-2010, 06:06 PM
Luke, is this fight going to be televised?
Mayweather by decision is much better value in my opinion. I don't think PBF winning is a lock though and can't lay
- 350 or -400. He hasn't looked that great. JMM was just way undersized.
I wouldnt do that.Mayweather by decision is -173 I laid -300 on him to win either way.If Maywather by decision was something like +130 this might be a better bet but not -173
Mosley has about as much chance of winning as Clottey did against Manny even though this will be closer on the cards. Mosley has 5 loses and 4 of them were to two counter punchers.Now if a prime Mosley cant beat Wright and Forrest hows a almost 39 year old Mosley going to beat Mayweather ,a faster,more accurate puncher than Forrest or Wright? I just think laying -173 on something having to be a decision win is worse idea than laying -300 on it going either way. This could end up like Manny-Cotto. It probably wont but I dont want to be praying no KO happens in rounds 10-12 so I dont lose my bet you know what I mean? I just believe the difference between -173 and -300 is enought to worry bout
The reason JMM lost wasnt just because he was undersized it was because both him and Mayweather are both counter punchers and Mayweather is the faster,more accurate counter puncher.He beat JMM at he own game and was better at it
Also welcome to the forum man ,it'll be nice to have someone else to talk boxing with ::handshake::
Luke, is this fight going to be televised?
yeah PPV lol
Fuck Holyfield is still fighting?
I remember gathering around at my Uncle's house to watch him fight Mike Tyson and Riddick Bowe like 20 years ago.
LOL fun fact.
Frans Botha has an MMA fight on his record.
He was Akiyama's debut opponent in K1, and was promptly armbarred.
I may follow on this play.
Fuck Holyfield is still fighting?
I remember gathering around at my Uncle's house to watch him fight Mike Tyson and Riddick Bowe like 20 years ago.
First fight I seen him in was against George Foreman in 1991
LOL fun fact.
Frans Botha has an MMA fight on his record.
He was Akiyama's debut opponent in K1, and was promptly armbarred.
I may follow on this play.
Both also retired from boxing from 2002-2007 to kick box.He went 4-11 over those 5 years and returned to boxing
LOL fun fact.
Frans Botha has an MMA fight on his record.
He was Akiyama's debut opponent in K1, and was promptly armbarred.
I may follow on this play.
Both also retired from boxing from 2002-2007 to kick box.He went 4-11 over those 5 years and returned to boxing
LOL yeah I saw that.
Seems like sound career choices.
MMA_scientist
04-09-2010, 04:36 PM
I was going to follow on this Luke, but there is no line on BM for it. What is the line?
Mr. IWS
04-09-2010, 04:41 PM
I cant find a line either. Looks like -230 from lukes post though.
I was going to follow on this Luke, but there is no line on BM for it. What is the line?
Both thegreek and 5dimes lines are up to -250.I bet it at 5dimes,cant believe bookmaker doesnt have a line on this
I was going to follow on this Luke, but there is no line on BM for it. What is the line?
Its up at bookmaker now its -240 I think the card starts at 9pm so Holyfield will probably fight around 11pm.
It will probably be a bad fight to watch,sorta like Hopkins-Jones last week with Holyfield being Hopkins and having more left in the tank of the two old fighters
Mr. IWS
04-10-2010, 10:41 AM
I may tail, depending on how my ufc plays go.
Holyfield weighed in at 220,Botha 250.
Natural Born Thriller
04-10-2010, 08:41 PM
zak playin holyfield from what he was sayin.
zak playin holyfield from what he was sayin.
Hope the old man has one more left in him for all of us
Stream for the Holyfield fight :
http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-boxing.html
Fight will start after the one thats going on right now
Oh looks like I got here just in time.
This dude is fat as fuck.
Botha up 2-0 after 2 but he'll slow down trust me
This is positively dreadful.
There are like 7 people in the crowd watching these fat old losers look at each other.
Where are the good boxing matches?
This is positively dreadful.
There are like 7 people in the crowd watching these fat old losers look at each other.
Where are the good boxing matches?
The good matches will come other day ,this isnt one of them .I warned you
This is positively dreadful.
There are like 7 people in the crowd watching these fat old losers look at each other.
Where are the good boxing matches?
The good matches will come other day ,this isnt one of them .I warned you
LOL.
Seriously, the last entertaining boxing match I can remember was Pacquiao/Cotto. And that was just an assbeating.
rofl
The announcers "Botha's MMA background". Yeah, getting armbarred in 2 minutes by Akiyama 6 years ago.
rofl
The announcers "Botha's MMA background". Yeah, getting armbarred in 2 minutes by Akiyama 6 years ago.
::lmao:: I heard that
RedHottG2
04-10-2010, 11:41 PM
I just clicked to watch and I got to say you guys are some degenerates if you bet this one. LOL ::congrats::
::rolling:: haha j/k guys have fun. I for one am out of this section. I think it's the first time I've ever even been in here.
Holyfield teeing off now .Botha maybe out of gas
I just clicked to watch and I got to say you guys are some degenerates if you bet this one. LOL ::congrats::
::rolling:: haha j/k guys have fun. I for one am out of this section. I think it's the first time I've ever even been in here.
You should post more often.
I bet it but I'm just following Luke like Ray Charles.
How do you have this scored Luke?
I just clicked to watch and I got to say you guys are some degenerates if you bet this one. LOL ::congrats::
::rolling:: haha j/k guys have fun. I for one am out of this section. I think it's the first time I've ever even been in here.
I have a big bet down on this.
Your giving me crap lol ::lmao::
How do you have this scored Luke?
4-3 after 7 Holyfield ahead
Its OOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR
Are you 'luke4MMA' on Twitter?
::moneybag:: ::moneybag::
Good call Luke. ::thumbup::
RedHottG2
04-10-2010, 11:50 PM
I just clicked to watch and I got to say you guys are some degenerates if you bet this one. LOL ::congrats::
::rolling:: haha j/k guys have fun. I for one am out of this section. I think it's the first time I've ever even been in here.
I have a big bet down on this.
Your giving me crap lol ::lmao::
Naw I for sure hope you guys win. I just thought I would stop in and see what the late crew was up to. Boy did I get a surprise. ::doh::
GL guys and I'll check back to see if you won.
::popcorn::
Are you 'luke4MMA' on Twitter?
LOL yeah are you following my updates ?
Naw I for sure hope you guys win. I just thought I would stop in and see what the late crew was up to. Boy did I get a surprise. ::doh::
GL guys and I'll check back to see if you won.
::popcorn::
We won its over
Are you 'luke4MMA' on Twitter?
LOL yeah are you following my updates ?
I was reading updates on #holyfield on google.
You were the only one saying anything and had scored it exactly the same.
LOL
RedHottG2
04-10-2010, 11:52 PM
HOLY CRAP nice call here Luke!
::greatjob::
::2drinks::
HOLY CRAP nice call here Luke!
::greatjob::
::2drinks::
thanks Mike
[quote="zY|":22n8rxo0]Are you 'luke4MMA' on Twitter?
LOL yeah are you following my updates ?
I was reading updates on #holyfield on google.
You were the only one saying anything and had scored it exactly the same.
LOL[/quote:22n8rxo0]
I'm the only person in America that cared about the fight LOL ::lmao::
2-0 on the day +3 units ::dance::
The Botha -Holyfield fight was better than Hopkins -Jones or Manny -Clottey pretty sad if you ask me
The Botha -Holyfield fight was better than Hopkins -Jones or Manny -Clottey pretty sad if you ask me
LOL yeah. I actually saw some clean shots land.
What fight are you watching now?
What fight are you watching now?
Was watching Andre Berto -Carlos Quintana on HBO but Berto just won by 8th round TKO.I would have bet Berto but the line was -500,no thanks too high for me
Mr. IWS
04-11-2010, 11:00 AM
I tailed here, Thriller should have posted.
Thanks for the winna
High5
04-11-2010, 11:33 AM
I also tailed and won 2u, Thanks Luke!
Funny the fight went just as you predicted, Botha started to fade after the 5th and it was like Holyfields game plan was to wait till the 5th to start to fight. It did seem like an early stopage though!
MMA is funner to watch but I am always looking for a good tip on some action. Thanks again!
I tailed here, Thriller should have posted.
Thanks for the winna
thriller posted it in the UFC thread if I remember correctly
Thewiseman
04-11-2010, 05:06 PM
Thanks, made .5u off your pick.
I also tailed and won 2u, Thanks Luke!
Funny the fight went just as you predicted, Botha started to fade after the 5th and it was like Holyfields game plan was to wait till the 5th to start to fight. It did seem like an early stopage though!
MMA is funner to watch but I am always looking for a good tip on some action. Thanks again!
Glad you won ,welcome to the forum ::handshake::
Mr. IWS
04-12-2010, 08:51 AM
::praise::
Luke
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