Sylvia Vs Pudz ***Strong man***

[edman5555]

Anyone else interested in this? I think if Timmy is in shape he takes it. Pudz is roughly the same weigh as Timmy just much stronger and compact. He gives up a lot of stamina for that though. His last fight was only 2 rounds..for a reason. So he could win. This fight is taking place in the united states so I'm assuming it will be 3 rounds. Tim is much more skilled that Pudz and will be much harder for Pudz to push around.

Anyone know what kind of shape Tim is in now?

Opening line guesses? I think Timmy takes this pretty easy but people really look down on him and give Mr. Strong man a lot of respect. I'm hoping Tim is an underdog. People give him shit but his last losses are Fedor, Noguiera and Mercer.. #1 and #2 heavy weight of all time or close to it in MMA. The other was an Olympic gold medalist in boxing and Tim was waaaaay out of shape.

Thoughts?

[Luke]

Sylvia -400

[Svino]

I'll guess the line at Sylvia -600.

[Mr. IWS]

After seeing Puds against a 200lber, I love Timmeh in this one.

[Luke]

HOly fuck Tim is only -130

[Svino]

My book doesn't have it yet, damn. Worth making a BetUS account just for this? Nah, I'll wait.

[ManBoobKilla]

just put 1.5 units on timmy @ -130

[Luke]

My book doesn't have it yet, damn. Worth making a BetUS account just for this? Nah, I'll wait.


I dont have one there either ::handshake::

[ManBoobKilla]

Usually Betus sucks and is the very last place to have lines. I guess I lucked out this time. I wouls have put more but UFC 113 I lost 6 units and I only have .5 left. I only have 1U in my bodog account

[MMA_scientist]

That is insanely wrong. I will dump a lot on Sylvia @ -130. I would break my 6u rule here.

[Svino]

Sylvia have some kind of medical problem we don't know about? Maybe an amputation of a key limb?

[ManBoobKilla]

Sylvia have some kind of medical problem we don't know about? Maybe an amputation of a key limb?

Where did you here that?

[Luke]

Sylvia have some kind of medical problem we don't know about? Maybe an amputation of a key limb?

Where did you here that?


FanastyMMAnews.com


::handshake::

[Svino]

I didn't, LOL. It's just that lines this weird make me a little nervous.

[MMA_scientist]

I think that was a joke, indicating what we all believe: the line is wrong. I would put more than 1.5 on that personally, if for no other reason, you are going to have an arb opportunity. That line is going to drop.

[SPX]

Holy shit. That line's gonna get destroyed.

No way the other books open it anywhere close to there, I don't think.

[ManBoobKilla]

I think that was a joke, indicating what we all believe: the line is wrong. I would put more than 1.5 on that personally, if for no other reason, you are going to have an arb opportunity. That line is going to drop.

I would but I dont have any more money in my betus account.

[ManBoobKilla]

timmy is at -140 now

[Ludo]

2.8u to win 2u on Tim Sylvia. Wow...Never thought I'd be typing that again.

[zY|]

2.8u to win 2u on Tim Sylvia. Wow...Never thought I'd be typing that again.

Haha.

I hope the other books open somewhere near that (they won't)

[Mr. IWS]

I just put my 2 kids on Timmeh.

[ManBoobKilla]

I just put my 2 kids on Timmeh.

lol good idea

[zY|]

I just put my 2 kids on Timmeh.

Is that why he weighed in at 315?

[Mr. IWS]

[quote="IWS Zak":10kaku5n]I just put my 2 kids on Timmeh.

Is that why he weighed in at 315?[/quote:10kaku5n]

ZING!

[Luke]

Anyone know what kind of shape Sylvia is in?

[Mr. IWS]

Anyone know what kind of shape Sylvia is in?

Hopefully not round. LOL

I just hope he has some professional pride, after that Mercer thing, and comes in shape. If he does, after he survives the first 2 minute burst by Pudz, it will be target practice.

[MMA_scientist]

he's fat as hell.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f61/many-good-quality-pics-pudz-tim-conference-1205007/

looks like he has given up on legitimacy. The sad thing is that Tim is a pretty godo fighter, and can probably still be top 10.

[Mr. IWS]

he's fat as hell.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f61/many-good-quality-pics-pudz-tim-conference-1205007/

looks like he has given up on legitimacy. The sad thing is that Tim is a pretty godo fighter, and can probably still be top 10.


He dont look to bad to me. We will see at the weigh in for sure though.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UUBYkSkbXGs/S8GVjCCdSGI/AAAAAAAAA8w/rFA1sHPoL-Q/IMG_5184.JPG?imgmax=800

[zY|]

"Pudz will prove to the world that strength is the #1 style."

That made me laugh.

[zY|]

Looks like he's about to just crush this mouse into dust.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UUBYkSkbXGs/S8GWhQFw3VI/AAAAAAAAA-Y/sjqgIXwrAzI/IMG_5244.JPG

[Mr. IWS]

surfin teh pr0nzorz

[Luke]

Sylvia looks fat to me .I'll pass on this

[Luke]

Sylvia up to -200 now

[SPX]

Sylvia up to -200 now

And the retarded begins. . .

[southbaysurf]

He doesn't look fat to me. Amazing how differently people can view the same picture. I want a minimum of +200 on Putz to sell back my 4u.

[poopoo333]

Yves Edwards..-165
Mike Campbell..+135

[Luke]

He doesn't look fat to me. Amazing how differently people can view the same picture. I want a minimum of +200 on Putz to sell back my 4u.


I'd say he's over 280 in those photos

[Svino]

I think 280 would be about half-way between Sylvia(Fedor) and Sylvia(Mercer).

[Luke]

I think 280 would be about half-way between Sylvia(Fedor) and Sylvia(Mercer).



What do you think he weighs right now?

[Svino]

I think 280 would be about half-way between Sylvia(Fedor) and Sylvia(Mercer).



What do you think he weighs right now?

I can't really tell. But I agree, at least a good chunk over his 260 days.

[southbaysurf]

280 would be fine with me. That's probably about what he weighed come fight time in the UFC.

[Svino]

Sylvia up to -300...

[SPX]

Officially missed the boat. . .

[Luke]

Officially missed the boat. . .


Yeah no chance I'm betting it now.Heck I'm not sure I was going to bet it at -130.

I would have funded a betus account and max bet -130 if I knew it was going clear to -300.


If Sylvia wins this fight I doubt we see anymore opening lines from Betus

[SPX]

^^^ the thing about Sylvia is that I just don't trust him, especially not at -300. If I knew we'd see the Tim Sylvia that fought Nog or beat AA, then sure. But the Tim Sylvia who just doesn't give a fuck? -130's a good deal but I wouldn't touch him at -300.

[Luke]

^^^ the thing about Sylvia is that I just don't trust him, especially not at -300. If I knew we'd see the Tim Sylvia that fought Nog or beat AA, then sure. But the Tim Sylvia who just doesn't give a fuck? -130's a good deal but I wouldn't touch him at -300.


Yeah I dont trust him for a second. I had plenty of time to open a betus account and bet it but even at -130 I wasnt too sure about it .Like I said I think he is 280+ right now .If he can stay away for the first two minutes he should win but staying away didnt work against Mercer or Fedor .

If the odds are really high in Vegas at fight time(+400) I'll probably throw 20 down on Pudz and just watch.If not I'll just watch and drink my free drinks

[SPX]

Yeah I dont trust him for a second. I had plenty of time to open a betus account and bet it but even at -130 I wasnt too sure about it .


I wouldn't open an account with a book like BetUS for just one fight. They have a C rating on SBR and I've heard some stories of some shady shit with them. I know a lot of people use them without problems, but in my opinion the Bookmaker-5dimes-Bodog triumvirate is all anyone needs.

[Luke]

Yeah I dont trust him for a second. I had plenty of time to open a betus account and bet it but even at -130 I wasnt too sure about it .


I wouldn't open an account with a book like BetUS for just one fight. They have a C rating on SBR and I've heard some stories of some shady shit with them. I know a lot of people use them without problems, but in my opinion the Bookmaker-5dimes-Bodog triumvirate is all anyone needs.


I wouldnt believe all the SBR ratings .They give bodog an A rating and I've heard tons of people complaining about getting paid from them.I have a sportsinteraction account I use to bet football dogs because they always have the highest lines.That was back when SIA had a C- rating and they sent me checks for 2k before without a problem


SBR ratings are a god tool to use but I'd take word of mouth before SBR ratings ::handshake::

[edman5555]

Have you ever had trouble cashing checks from these people? Do you go to a reg bank or a check cashing station?

[SPX]

No, I hear you. I've heard some shady stuff from a few players, too.

Sportsbook actually has a C- rating with SBR. I've been considering dumping them.

[Luke]

Have you ever had trouble cashing checks from these people? Do you go to a reg bank or a check cashing station?


Never had a problem.Sportsinteractions checks come from some Canadian bank (cant remember the name)

When I brought it to my bank(huntington) they asked me what it was for and I just ignored them and told them to deposit it .They told me there would be atleast a 7 day hold on it and I said ok and that was it.

I've never used a check cashing place before .Would they even take an out of country check?

[SPX]

When I brought it to my bank(huntington) they asked me what it was for. . .

Dude, I would tell them to mind their own fucking business!

[ManBoobKilla]

When I brought it to my bank(huntington) they asked me what it was for. . .

Dude, I would tell them to mind their own fucking business!

Damn you guys get angry. My girlfriend is an assistant manager at USBANK. You know it is just protocol to ask. They have to ask and they have to know what its for. Im actually surprised she cashed it without you telling her

[SPX]

Damn you guys get angry. My girlfriend is an assistant manager at USBANK. You know it is just protocol to ask. They have to ask and they have to know what its for. Im actually surprised she cashed it without you telling her

They have to ask WHY YOU ARE GETTING MONEY FROM SOMEONE? What about privacy?

[ManBoobKilla]

Damn you guys get angry. My girlfriend is an assistant manager at USBANK. You know it is just protocol to ask. They have to ask and they have to know what its for. Im actually surprised she cashed it without you telling her

They have to ask WHY YOU ARE GETTING MONEY FROM SOMEONE? What about privacy?
I dont know the exact rules because I dont work there but I do know if it looks suspicous and definatly if its from another country they do have to ask

[SPX]

I'd tell them I got it for sucking dicks while working abroad. $1 per dick. And I'd say it with a straight face.

[ManBoobKilla]

I'd tell them I got it for sucking dicks while working abroad. $1 per dick. And I'd say it with a straight face.

Ok good idea.

[Luke]

I'd tell them I got it for sucking dicks while working abroad. $1 per dick. And I'd say it with a straight face.



::lmao::

I should have did that

[Luke]

Damn you guys get angry. My girlfriend is an assistant manager at USBANK. You know it is just protocol to ask. They have to ask and they have to know what its for. Im actually surprised she cashed it without you telling her


She didnt cash it.I asked to have it put in my savings account and she said it would be a 7 day hold on it. I didnt figure when I went in they would cash a check from a bank in canada . But I agree with SPX its none of her business where the money came from. When she asked me I just ignored her and told her to deposit it into my savings, she didnt ask again but if she had I would have got mad

[ManBoobKilla]

Damn you guys get angry. My girlfriend is an assistant manager at USBANK. You know it is just protocol to ask. They have to ask and they have to know what its for. Im actually surprised she cashed it without you telling her


She didnt cash it.I asked to have it put in my savings account and she said it would be a 7 day hold on it. I didnt figure when I went in they would cash a check from a bank in canada . But I agree with SPX its none of her business where the money came from. When she asked me I just ignored her and told her to deposit it into my savings, she didnt ask again but if she had I would have got mad

Either way cash or deposit. Im just saying that it is policy. They get fraud checks ALL the time so they have to ask when it looks a little suspicious. It's not like she herself is really interested in where it came from, im sure she could care less, she was just doing what she was told to do. Its not a big deal though I was just informing you guys why she did that

[SPX]

I agree that there's no reason to be an asshole to the individual person. As someone who has had to interact with the public a lot, it sucks when you have to take shit from someone just because you work for a company with shitty policies. With that said, it's a shitty policy. It's not like you can't just lie anyway.

[ManBoobKilla]

I agree that there's no reason to be an asshole to the individual person. As someone who has had to interact with the public a lot, it sucks when you have to take shit from someone just because you work for a company with shitty policies. With that said, it's a shitty policy. It's not like you can't just lie anyway.

Couldnt agree more

[poopoo333]

Ok lets think of funny but serious things to tell bankers about the checks.

"It is my check from an organization in ...... where I go periodically to help feed the starving children. I actually volunteered for this, but I was involved in a situation where I had to risk my life for some children and I was rewarded with this money." -I will only use this for a hot bank teller.

[Ludo]

"This is one of the checks for a malpractice suit I filed against my proctologist"

[poopoo333]

"This is one of the checks for a malpractice suit I filed against my proctologist"

LOL

"I sold my child."

[SPX]

"I sold my child."

If it's a sketchy foreign country then that could work. . .

[poopoo333]

"I sold my child."

If it's a sketchy foreign country then that could work. . .

It wouldn't work at all. My age would give it away.

[SPX]

It wouldn't work at all. My age would give it away.

You just started fucking early is all. . .

[Mr. IWS]

Officially missed the boat. . .

In the water with ya.

[southbaysurf]

re: Sportsinteraction

I've gotten checks from them and even though it was drawn on a Canadian bank, I'm almost positive that the check I got said,
"payable through ............. in USD" and an agent bank in NY was listed.

If not SI, then this exact situation existed with one of my other accounts.

[MMA_scientist]

Syvia -420 now.

opportunity

I missed it.

[ManBoobKilla]

Syvia -420 now.

opportunity

I missed it.

Damn thats crazy! I didnt think he would get that high. I guess I lucked out with my betus account.

[Thewiseman]

Yeah I dont trust him for a second. I had plenty of time to open a betus account and bet it but even at -130 I wasnt too sure about it .


I wouldn't open an account with a book like BetUS for just one fight. They have a C rating on SBR and I've heard some stories of some shady shit with them. I know a lot of people use them without problems, but in my opinion the Bookmaker-5dimes-Bodog triumvirate is all anyone needs.
I rarely use Betus because thier fight lines suck, but I have cashed out several times from them and got paid, at least 7 times. I use them for betting sports because of the bonuses.

[ManBoobKilla]

Yeah I dont trust him for a second. I had plenty of time to open a betus account and bet it but even at -130 I wasnt too sure about it .


I wouldn't open an account with a book like BetUS for just one fight. They have a C rating on SBR and I've heard some stories of some shady shit with them. I know a lot of people use them without problems, but in my opinion the Bookmaker-5dimes-Bodog triumvirate is all anyone needs.
I rarely use Betus because thier fight lines suck, but I have cashed out several times from them and got paid, at least 7 times. I use them for betting sports because of the bonuses.

Ya im about to get rid of my account there. It seem slike they have the worst lines and are always the last ones up. I have a bodog account also though. What site is the best?? I heard 5dimes is pretty good. what do you guys use?

[Luke]

Ya im about to get rid of my account there. It seem slike they have the worst lines and are always the last ones up. I have a bodog account also though. What site is the best?? I heard 5dimes is pretty good. what do you guys use?


I use thegreek,5dimes and matchbook right now. The best lines are "usually" found at matchbook but there isnt always alot of volume to bet unless its big fights

[ManBoobKilla]

Ya im about to get rid of my account there. It seem slike they have the worst lines and are always the last ones up. I have a bodog account also though. What site is the best?? I heard 5dimes is pretty good. what do you guys use?


I use thegreek,5dimes and matchbook right now. The best lines are "usually" found at matchbook but there isnt always alot of volume to bet unless its big fights[/quote]

Ok thanks. I never heard of matchbook though. Ill check it out

[SPX]

Ya im about to get rid of my account there. It seem slike they have the worst lines and are always the last ones up. I have a bodog account also though. What site is the best?? I heard 5dimes is pretty good. what do you guys use?

Bookmaker -- usually the first to post lines
Bodog -- often has good underdog lines
5dimes -- usually has good lines overall
Sportsbook -- eh, just have it because I opened the account a while back . . . not much reason for this one though

[MMA_scientist]

bookmaker is all I really use. I also have a 5dimes and Bodog. Bodog was having problems a couple months ago (I heard- but they have paid me every time).

bookmaker is all you need IMO. But they don't do parlays, which I never do so I don't care. 5dimes is the parlay king.

I have been saying I was going to check out matchbook too. Betfair I think is another that is p2p bets.

[Ludo]

Betfair doesn't allow betting from the US.

[Luke]

Betfair doesn't allow betting from the US.


I'm not sure they have MMA anyway.I could be wrong though I'm not sure

[Luke]

Anyone ever notice we never stay on topic?

::hijack::

[Ludo]

Who's fault is that, Luke? (Notice I'm trying to give you an opening here for something specific...)

[Luke]

Who's fault is that, Luke? (Notice I'm trying to give you an opening here for something specific...)


I didnt say it was anyones fault I think we all change the subject of some threads . I dont care if we ever stay on topic I was just saying .


Speaking of off topic anyone watching the Cavs get whipped?

[Ludo]

Who's fault is that, Luke? (Notice I'm trying to give you an opening here for something specific...)


I didnt say it was anyones fault I think we all change the subject of some threads . I dont care if we ever stay on topic I was just saying .


Speaking of off topic anyone watching the Cavs get whipped?

Your mom.

[SPX]

Your mom.

I approve of this response.

[SPX]

bookmaker is all you need IMO.

Can't line shop that way. In my opinion, line shopping is a huge part of successful betting.

[Luke]

Your mom.


I'm watching the cavs on TV,I'm watching your mom on pornhub.com

[Luke]

bookmaker is all you need IMO.

Can't line shop that way. In my opinion, line shopping is a huge part of successful betting.


I agree with SPX here .I've seen many people bet fights on here where I could find 40 cents cheaper on the same fight at one of my books.

[SPX]

I agree with SPX here .I've seen many people bet fights on here where I could find 40 cents cheaper on the same fight at one of my books.

Agreement in the house.

Yeah, seriously, lines can vary enough from book to book to warrant multiple accounts. I always suggest three.

[zY|]

Cavs got fuckin spanked. If they don't magically pull the next 2 games out, Lebron is gone. They'd probably lose to the Magic again anyways.

[Luke]

Cavs got fuckin spanked. If they don't magically pull the next 2 games out, Lebron is gone. They'd probably lose to the Magic again anyways.


I dont think they are beating Boston now. Also I'm not sure Boston doesnt beat the Magic.Last year they took them to 7 games without KG

[zY|]

Cavs got fuckin spanked. If they don't magically pull the next 2 games out, Lebron is gone. They'd probably lose to the Magic again anyways.


I dont think they are beating Boston now. Also I'm not sure Boston doesnt beat the Magic.Last year they took them to 7 games without KG

I don't think they do either. They've gotta come up big in Game 6. The Cavs have only showed up for one game this series. They've been outplayed completely.

I think the Magic are better this year, but the Celtics are pretty underrated. The big 3 may be old but they still perform in the playoffs. And that Rondo is a pesky motherfucker.

[poopoo333]

Since this thread is currently off topic, Luke...any upcoming boxing plays that are good?

[SPX]

Since this thread is currently off topic, Luke...any upcoming boxing plays that are good?

LOL

It's not quite that off topic. . .

Actually, I guess it is.

[zY|]

The fuckin thread is about Tim Sylvia vs the world's strongest man. Offtopic makes it a better thread.

[Luke]

Since this thread is currently off topic, Luke...any upcoming boxing plays that are good?


I havent seen anything really .Most fights have huge lines that are coming up theres a couple I'm looking at but still unsure yet.If I end up betting something I'll make sure I put up the thread at least 3 days ahead of time ::handshake::

[Luke]

The fuckin thread is about Tim Sylvia vs the world's strongest man. Offtopic makes it a better thread.


::lmao::


Kind of my thoughts too

[Luke]

I don't think they do either. They've gotta come up big in Game 6. The Cavs have only showed up for one game this series. They've been outplayed completely.

I think the Magic are better this year, but the Celtics are pretty underrated. The big 3 may be old but they still perform in the playoffs. And that Rondo is a pesky motherfucker.


I dont think they will come up big though.I think they'll try and if they get behind they'll give up.I'm not sure Lebron cares anymore either ,I think he's given up. He might be more worried about where he's going next year.

I think Orlando-Boston would be a hell of a series.

Even if Cleveland wins and moves on (which I dont think they will) they stand no chance at winning the championship and thats the only thing Lebron cared about .

[poopoo333]

I hope Orlando goes all the way and wins. (yes, from FL)

[zY|]

It's funny how they got Shaq to combat Howard and now he probably doesn't even get the chance.

[Luke]

It's funny how they got Shaq to combat Howard and now he probably doesn't even get the chance.


LOL I know .

Howard is so overrated though imo

[Luke]

OMFG if this video with Pudz in it doesnt make you laugh you dont have a heart beat


I'm dying here ::lmao::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaUK5QuoQh4&feature=player_embedded

[Luke]

I wonder if they have spent as much money promoting this fight as they did for Sylvia's fight with Mercer? They had some good tv spots for that fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruvhs1Ua-0w

[zY|]

You watching this game Luke? The Cavs are playing like total shit.

[poopoo333]

You watching this game Luke? The Cavs are playing like total shit.

Good. Celtics win and I win $100.

[zY|]

You watching this game Luke? The Cavs are playing like total shit.

Good. Celtics win and I win $100.

Boooo.

I don't want the Celtics to win because they have no chance to win the title so it's a waste.

[poopoo333]

[quote="zY|":3tmumnov]You watching this game Luke? The Cavs are playing like total shit.

Good. Celtics win and I win $100.

Boooo.

I don't want the Celtics to win because they have no chance to win the title so it's a waste.[/quote:3tmumnov]
::iwin::

[zY|]

I'm glad you won but I don't bet on basketball so that talk doesn't interest me.

[poopoo333]

I'm glad you won but I don't bet on basketball so that talk doesn't interest me.

Your mom interests me.

[zY|]

If you knew her you wouldn't say that.

[Luke]

You watching this game Luke? The Cavs are playing like total shit.


Yeah I watched it while trying to pack. I'm glad they lost .I knew they would lose today but was too chicken to bet on it

[Luke]

I'm glad you won but I don't bet on basketball so that talk doesn't interest me.



Actually this is the first year I havent bet NBA basketball. Last years nba playoffs I won about 15 units

[Luke]

[quote="zY|":4trfn154]You watching this game Luke? The Cavs are playing like total shit.

Good. Celtics win and I win $100.

Boooo.

I don't want the Celtics to win because they have no chance to win the title so it's a waste.[/quote:4trfn154]


I wouldnt say they have no chance .Just a few years ago this exact same Boston team beat LA in the finals so I think they have a chance. Plus LA imo isnt playing as well as last year.

I think the Orlando-Boston series is going to be one bad ass series .I'll be watching in a 300 seat Vegas sportsbook ::thumbup::

[Luke]

At least Lebron didnt walk off the court like a bitch like he did last year. I use to like Lebron but he whines to much and I think he is full of himself. I like Ray Allen and KG so I was rooting for Boston in this series

[zY|]

Good. Celtics win and I win $100.

Boooo.

I don't want the Celtics to win because they have no chance to win the title so it's a waste.


I wouldnt say they have no chance .Just a few years ago this exact same Boston team beat LA in the finals so I think they have a chance. Plus LA imo isnt playing as well as last year.

I think the Orlando-Boston series is going to be one bad ass series .I'll be watching in a 300 seat Vegas sportsbook ::thumbup::

True.

I just don't think they will beat the Magic. I know they took them to 7 last year but the Magic are better than this year and are on a roll.

[Luke]

True.

I just don't think they will beat the Magic. I know they took them to 7 last year but the Magic are better than this year and are on a roll.


You're right the Magic are better this year they got Nelson back and Carter now but Boston has KG back.I'd give Orlando the edge for sure in this series .They have home court this year unlike last year when Boston had it.
I wouldnt be surprised if this series went 7 games again with Orlando taking it again


Also remember if Orlando beats Boston they have homecourt adv against LA. I think Orlando can take LA this year

[SPX]

The Jazz are the best.

[Luke]

The Jazz are the best.



The Jazz got swept ::lmao::

Your not allowed in basketball dicussions anymore when your team goes down

[zY|]

True.

I just don't think they will beat the Magic. I know they took them to 7 last year but the Magic are better than this year and are on a roll.


You're right the Magic are better this year they got Nelson back and Carter now but Boston has KG back.I'd give Orlando the edge for sure in this series .They have home court this year unlike last year when Boston had it.
I wouldnt be surprised if this series went 7 games again with Orlando taking it again


Also remember if Orlando beats Boston they have homecourt adv against LA. I think Orlando can take LA this year

Hell, maybe I'm underestimating the Celtics, I dunno. I wouldn't mind the Magic winning it all.

LOL SPX.

[Luke]

I wouldnt mind the Magic winning it either . I fucking hate Howard though but dont mind the rest of them . I'd have to say I'd rather Boston win though

[SPX]

The Jazz got swept ::lmao::

Your not allowed in basketball dicussions anymore when your team goes down

I'm moving to my backup team:

WAR SUNS!!!!!!

[zY|]

The Jazz got swept ::lmao::

Your not allowed in basketball dicussions anymore when your team goes down

I'm moving to my backup team:

WAR SUNS!!!!!!

Good luck.

Who knows, maybe we'll have a Celtics/Suns Finals.

[poopoo333]

So is anybody actually betting this fight at the current odds?

[Ludo]

No, but I just took Lutter 1.1u to win 1u

[Mr. IWS]

The more I think about it, I may still get on Timmeh in this one. I really wanna see what he looks like at the weigh ins.

[MMA_scientist]

The more I think about it, I may still get on Timmeh in this one. I really wanna see what he looks like at the weigh ins.

I actually just pulled the trigger. Pudz has about 40 seconds to KO Tim. After that, it academic. Tim is going to win. I will pay 3:1 that Pudz can't KO Tim in 30 seconds- which is essentially what the bet is.

For some reason Bookmaker is only allowing a $25 bet max (you can only take $25 from them). So my bet is $77. Hopefully they will lift the restriction like they usually do. It usually goes up to at least $1000 before fight time. But the restriction is also usually $250, not $25. So either there is not enough action on the bet or something else is up.

[Mr. IWS]

I actually just pulled the trigger. Pudz has about 40 seconds to KO Tim. After that, it academic. Tim is going to win. I will pay 3:1 that Pudz can't KO Tim in 30 seconds- which is essentially what the bet is.


This is exactly my thinking. Any idea if this fight will be in a ring or a cage?

[edman5555]

Also rounds? I'm assuming 3. Pudz last outing was 2 rounds but that was in poland. Also how is Tim look? He in shape?

[Johnny Unreliable]

At least I'm not alone scientist if Sylvia goes down in flames. I pulled the trigger as well for the max bet. Hopefully Sylvia was embarrassed enough by his last loss to not come in a fat slob again as thats the only way I see him losing. I don't see Sylvia losing this fight.

[MMA_scientist]

If they would let me bet more, I would probably bet 4 times as much... I am hoping they lift the restriction.

[poopoo333]

"I would definitely like to get back in the UFC or Strikeforce. We have talked with Strikeforce but right now we don’t know what is happening right now. There is guys I want to fight in both shows."

"I would imagine Strikeforce would be better for me because they would be a little more lenient with me instead of locking me down."

"I want to fight Overeem, Fedor again, Werdum is a good fight and me and Rogers would be a good fight. Arlovski I think would be [like our fight] number three again, me knocking him out. I think I ruined the poor guy, since I knocked him out he hasn’t been the same."

"I had guys over 350 lbs lay on me just to see if I can sub them or get them off me and get back to my feet."

"I think when I hit him [Mariusz Pudzianowski] with a left hook or a straight right he will crumble," he says. "I don’t think he has been hit."






...I really hope his only training for this fight was to have a 350 lb guy lay on him.

[SPX]

Arlovski I think would be [like our fight] number three again, me knocking him out. I think I ruined the poor guy, since I knocked him out he hasn’t been the same."

That's some shit right there. . .

[poopoo333]

Arlovski I think would be [like our fight] number three again, me knocking him out. I think I ruined the poor guy, since I knocked him out he hasn’t been the same."

That's some shit right there. . .

I can actually seeing a fourth fight happening in Strikeforce.

[MMA_scientist]

Max BM bet on Wiuff @ -355

He is a veteran who just beat Jeff Monson, fighting a 5-4 guy on 3 days notice. I mean, we are talking about the Yamma champion.

[Svino]

Max BM bet on Wiuff @ -355

He is a veteran who just beat Jeff Monson, fighting a 5-4 guy on 3 days notice. I mean, we are talking about the Yamma champion.

Yeah, this is a great play. Thanks for the heads-up.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't know what the deal with BM limit on this event is all about. It sayd $100 limit, then it only let me bet enough to win $25 (which is $88). I would like to go to 5u here...

do the other books have a cap on this card?

[Mr. IWS]

do the other books have a cap on this card?

I just checked sportsbook.com, they dont even have any odds up. Im not sure on the other ones.

[JAB]

BETUS doesn't have a limit on this card

[poopoo333]

4u on Sylvia @-255

[Mr. IWS]

Ill be on Sylvia for 1 unit as well.

[MMA_scientist]

We are all on Sylvia then. Crap. We need someone to break the curse by betting on Pudz. Someone jump on the grenade here. Anytime we all agree, madness follows.


Pudz is the new Beltran.

[zY|]

I was about to hit Sylvia at -270 at Sportsbook, but I may hold off until someone takes Pudz.

[zY|]

Fuck it. I'm on Sylvia as well. Tim beat Nog's ass for 13 minutes, neutralized Jeff Monson for 25, shut down the unstoppable Vera, he's knocked out bigger guys. He can't lose to a guy who trains by pulling his car around the parking lot, right? RIGHT?

http://api.ning.com/files/esTzb3fupZ6iKuS2CMe-uNqIT5qHtWO1w1v3xOzVbaVSY4lWnAugRS91V1X-2RoMQBMVcK4Ky*cEmtZXdUfKSy0lwlzaKO1i/Badboys_Roc4life.jpg

[Mr. IWS]

BBFL!

[MMA_scientist]

Agreed. No way in hell Pudz beats Sylvia, unless, UNLESS, the IWS consensus curse is real. Which it is.

If BM ever lifts the limit, I am going 6u.

[MMA_scientist]

Boom. Limit raised on BM. 5u on Sylvia.

[MMA_scientist]

6 on Wuiff too.

Comeback. Its on.

[zY|]

So what do you guys think about Yves Edwards and Travis Lutter fights?

[MMA_scientist]

So what do you guys think about Yves Edwards and Travis Lutter fights?

Lutter's fight is against anothe bjj guy. So there is a great chance Lutter tries to keep it standing... there is also a great chance he gasses out grappling and gets beat up.

Yves is done. I wouldn't bet on him to beat anyone.

[Mr. IWS]

Travis Lutter


Jordan?

[zY|]

Tim looking suave as usual.

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/600/_images/pictures/20100520052124_Tim_Sylvia_Marius_Pudzianowski_1043 .JPG

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/600/_images/pictures/20100520052222_Tim_Sylvia_Marius_Pudzianowski_1041 .JPG

[poopoo333]

Jesus christ timmeh

[Ludo]

He doesn't look that bad. He looks almost like he did when he fought in the UFC, and thats bad news for Marius.

[Svino]

He doesn't look that bad. He looks almost like he did when he fought in the UFC, and thats bad news for Marius.

I agree. Sure, he looks a little flabby, but it's nothing to make me doubt my bet. If anything, I'm reassured that he's not fatter.

[Ludo]

He's never had an "athletic" physique. Even at his peak when everything was going right he was a little flabby and soft around the waist. He actually looks like he had a real training camp for this fight, and almost looks like he's back to form at least as far as unnecessary flab goes.

[zY|]

Well shit. I thought he looked the same as UFC also, but uh..


Tim Sylvia (305) vs. Mariusz Pudzianowski (273)

Motherfucker is 3 bills again.

[Ludo]

Holy fuck. We might be in trouble...

[Mr. IWS]

WTF. I still think he will win, but dam, I thought Sylvia was getting his shit together.

[Mr. IWS]

Someone refresh my memory. What was Sylvia fighting at his last couple fights in the UFC? 260lb maybe? Im thinking maybe he just aint cutting anything since he doesnt have to make 265.

Im looking for a silver lining here.

[MMA_scientist]

Here's the silver lining: Pudzianowski can't fight. Even though Sylvia got KO'd by Ray Mercer, at least Mercer has some fight experience and ability. Pudz lifts rocks and buses and stuff. Tim is going to get swarmed for a minute, probably get tossed to the ground, then he is going to start throwing jabs and Pudz is going to block them with his face. The ref will pull Timmeh off of Pudz in the 2nd after he goes down from fatigue/eating too many jabs, Tim jumps on his back and unloads on his head, Arlovski II style.

This is exactly how the fight will play out. For some reason, BM is not offering this fight anymore.

I went to 5u on Wiuff, but I still just have the small bet to win 25 on Tim.


Let's just hope the IWS curse is not real. If Pudz wins here, we are going to need SPX to do an exorcism or burn his tarot cards or something.

[Mr. IWS]

For some reason, BM is not offering this fight anymore.


Definatly wierd. Im waiting for my guy to call me back with a line too. Usually he has them day of event.

[SPX]

Let's just hope the IWS curse is not real. If Pudz wins here, we are going to need SPX to do an exorcism or burn his tarot cards or something.

LOL. I was actually going to follow with you guys on this one and on Hornbuckle last night, but all of my 5dimes money is sitting on other fights.

[MMA_scientist]

Let's just hope the IWS curse is not real. If Pudz wins here, we are going to need SPX to do an exorcism or burn his tarot cards or something.

LOL. I was actually going to follow with you guys on this one and on Hornbuckle last night, but all of my 5dimes money is sitting on other fights.

I am pretty excited to see Hornbuckle/Askren. I am a Hornbuckle fan, as he fought in a lot of local shows around here. I also really like his game. Askren, on the other hand, is losing me. I suspect Hornbuckle will sub him, but who knows. Askren was in ADCC last year. But he also got subbed in like 20 seconds by Popovich. Hornbuckle is no Popovich though. I don't know, Hornbuckle is definately a better fighter, but Askren might have the style to beat him.

[zY|]

Someone refresh my memory. What was Sylvia fighting at his last couple fights in the UFC? 260lb maybe? Im thinking maybe he just aint cutting anything since he doesnt have to make 265.

Im looking for a silver lining here.

He used to weigh in low 260s, high 250s.

[Mr. IWS]

He used to weigh in low 260s, high 250s.

thats kind of what I was thinking. Ill still get on him though. Im pretty sure he was close to 300 last time out and he Ko'd some can.

[southbaysurf]

Just to make you whiners feel a bit better, I have $200 on Putz.














Then again, I have $400 on Sylvia at the opening line.

[MMA_scientist]

^^

I still think that counts. You have effectively nullified the IWS consensus curse.

[Mr. IWS]

Im noticing the line is dropping now.

[zY|]

^^The 305 effect. I should've waited.

[MMA_scientist]

Its back open on BM, rounded out my bet @ -271.

I have a very bad feeling that the fix is in here.

[Mr. IWS]

Im riding out with Timmeh. I dont care if he knows what AA's pee pee taste like.

[zY|]

Its back open on BM, rounded out my bet @ -271.

I have a very bad feeling that the fix is in here.

Ugh.

[MMA_scientist]

[quote="MMA_scientist":3m3cfnp7]Its back open on BM, rounded out my bet @ -271.

I have a very bad feeling that the fix is in here.

Ugh.[/quote:3m3cfnp7]

Why the hell did the line open @ -130 then go to -450. Why did BM have a $25 cap, then no action at all, then no cap? Polish mafia.

[zY|]

Hopefully because the fight is just a complete gong show. But probably that along with they don't trust it either.

LOL at Polish Mafia.

[poopoo333]

It is at -220 now.... shit

[Mr. IWS]

It is at -220 now.... shit

Its -205 at bookmaker.

[MMA_scientist]

Seriously, Sylvia should be -600 or more. A former UFC champ and long time top 10, fighting an strongman with 2 fights, one of which he looked absolutely horrible in, just last month.

What is happening? This fight is fixed.

[Mr. IWS]

I think its what zY said. That weigh in picture is making the rounds.

[edman5555]

Fixed? Why do you say that?

[zY|]

I don't think it's a fix.

Go read any forum. Nobody saw that 2nd Pudz fight. All anyone remembers is 315 Timmeh getting blasted out by Mercer in 9 seconds. Everyone expects a repeat of that.

Let's call it a gift.

[Mr. IWS]

Sylvia weighed in again. Looks a lot better now?

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3200/timg.jpg

[MMA_scientist]

Mercer was a ranked professional boxer. He was a professional fighter fighting a striker. Pudz lifts shit up. That's what he is good at. He can't even hold his hands up in front of his face. He fought just a few weeks ago and had his hands full with a LHW brawler. Tim is going to kill him.


If I wasn't concerned about the fix, I would dump 5 more units on Tim.

[zY|]

Mercer was a ranked professional boxer. He was a professional fighter fighting a striker. Pudz lifts shit up. That's what he is good at. He can't even hold his hands up in front of his face. He fought just a few weeks ago and had his hands full with a LHW brawler. Tim is going to kill him.


If I wasn't concerned about the fix, I would dump 5 more units on Tim.

I know that, I'm just trying to explain the line.

[MMA_scientist]

I know that, I'm just trying to explain the line.

Yeah, I know. I am just pointing out again how the betting public is completely asinine.

[Ludo]

.2u parlay to win 2u on Sylvia, Lutter, and Coy.

[Svino]

FYI, BookMaker is taking bets on this fight again. Sylvia at -250.

[MMA_scientist]

^^ Yeah I got it earlier @ -271 for a full 5u now.

[SPX]

Jumping on these bets where we all agree seems to be a freight train to hell, but I figure one has to hit eventually.

5u on Tim at -205

[edman5555]

Chuga Chuga Choo Choo

[Ludo]

I'm glad I jumped on Sylvia when he was still -140...

[Ludo]

Chuga Chuga Choo Choo


Do me a favor and say that like Major Payne does ::lmao::

[poopoo333]

Stream?

[poopoo333]

Found one...

IWS chat orgy?

http://www.justin.tv/snappleshd11#r=7AAkJhg~

[Mr. IWS]

sup fags.

Just got home.

War Bas

[Svino]

It just wouldn't be a night of fight-watching without an argument about whether chat lags the stream going on to the right of the video.

[poopoo333]

Strikeforce/Moosin Parlay:
Sylvia
Wiuff
Lindland
Woodley
Bowling

1u to win 2.56u

[MMA_scientist]

Strikeforce/Moosin Parlay:
Sylvia
Wiuff
Lindland
Woodley
Bowling

1u to win 2.56u

That has a good chance. I considered Bowling, kid looks like a beast. But I didn't bet him because he basically has 2 fights, Seth Baszinski and Shamar Bailey. All of his other wins combined have a like 3 total wins. It is a bunch of 0-2 guys. And he hasn't fought a submission threat yet. Being a converted boxer gives me a pause about his submission defense.

Still, he will probably win. Lindland might screw you though.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, Lindland or Woodley will probably lose.

[zY|]

Has a real good chance of hitting. Of course, any one of those guys losing wouldn't be super surprising.

[zY|]

That azn just got obliterated.

[edman5555]

My plays for tonight.

A very large bet on tim sylvia..biggest bet ive ever made. Got a mediocre line. Kind of regretting it. Hoping my instinct pays off and the meat head loses.

30 bucks on nate coy

Parlays as follows:

Nate coy +tim sylvia. 10 to win 63$

nate coy+bobby voelker+yves edwards + tim sylvia 15 to win 690$

voelker, yves, tim- 20 to win 168

[Mr. IWS]

Tara Larosa up next, 215 in the building

[zY|]

^^Did you just call out an area code?

[SPX]

Awesome, the taekwondo guy just won.

[Mr. IWS]

who is the dude doing the interviews in the back?

[Mr. IWS]

^^Did you just call out an area code?

yezzir

[SPX]

Okay, who's gonna hook us up with a new stream?

[edman5555]

Roger bowling was a 9-0 boxer that converted to mma. Most of his fights have been at the MMA big show..anyone ever heard of that? None of the fighters have profiles on wiki, thats not usually a good sign.
Bobby Voelker is 21-7 as pro and went 15-0 as an amateur. I don't see why he should be the underdog at all. I think he should be the fav.

[poopoo333]

Okay, who's gonna hook us up with a new stream?

http://www.veetle.com/view/index.html#4b38cb36400ee

That is supposed to work, just gotta get veetle.

[Mr. IWS]

http://channelsurfing.net/watch-moosin.html

[MMA_scientist]

Roger bowling was a 9-0 boxer that converted to mma. Most of his fights have been at the MMA big show..anyone ever heard of that? None of the fighters have profiles on wiki, thats not usually a good sign.
Bobby Voelker is 21-7 as pro and went 15-0 as an amateur. I don't see why he should be the underdog at all. I think he should be the fav.

Well, Bowling beat Shamar Bailey. That is a very high quality win. Even though all of his other wins are cans, that win makes him the favorite. Plus, just go watch him, he can wrestle too and kick too. He usually goes for a takedown. I think he is a solid prospect

[zY|]

What the fuck is Veetle?

I only use sopcast.

[SPX]

What the fuck is Veetle?

I only use sopcast.

I think it's some kind of new shit. I have it. I like it because it doesn't automatically take shit out of full screen when you click outside of the window with dual monitors.

[SPX]

IS this stream being an asshole for anyone else or is it just me?

[Mr. IWS]

What the fuck is Veetle?

.

I think its some kind of Vietnamese Beetle.

[poopoo333]

The sopcast channel I am using is way behind the channelsurfing stream.

[zY|]

What the fuck is Veetle?

I only use sopcast.

I think it's some kind of new shit. I have it. I like it because it doesn't automatically take shit out of full screen when you click outside of the window with dual monitors.

Oh werd.

I hate that shit. I have ADD so I'm always looking at some other shit on the other monitor.

And I'm using the one Zak posted and it's working fine in my browser.

[Mr. IWS]

LOL @ "cyclone punch"

[SPX]

And I'm using the one Zak posted and it's working fine in my browser.

Is it choppy at all?

[zY|]

And I'm using the one Zak posted and it's working fine in my browser.

Is it choppy at all?

Not so far.

Shit wish I'd bet on Roxy.

[Svino]

channel 3 on http://snapples.forumotion.com/ is better for me than the Veetle link.

[zY|]

That's a slick fuckin link there, Svino.

[SPX]

That's a slick fuckin link there, Svino.

Do you know if it minimizes on dual monitors?

[zY|]

I dunno I'm still using channelsurfing. I just bookmarked his link tho.

[zY|]

Women's MMA is, all at the same time, amateur, sloppy, and fucking awesome.

[SPX]

That was really a hell of a fight.

I don't give a fuck what anyone says, I love women's MMA.

[SPX]

Women's MMA is, all at the same time, amateur, sloppy, and fucking awesome.

You = Hater

[zY|]

Women's MMA is, all at the same time, amateur, sloppy, and fucking awesome.

You = Hater

Didn't I just give it props, bro?

[Mr. IWS]

Butterbean rockin the all black.

[zY|]

Oh here we go, time for a Shit Decision.

[poopoo333]

Women's MMA is, all at the same time, amateur, sloppy, and fucking awesome.

This is why I didn't put a bet on Roxy. I was about to actually. grrr

[SPX]

Didn't I just give it props, bro?

Oh yeah, sort of. My bad. Just seemed more hating than propping.

But cool.

[poopoo333]

I wonder if these two girls are going to scissor after the match.

[SPX]

I think I'm in love with that girl. Bas is right. She seems too sweet and innocent for this shit.

[zY|]

Didn't I just give it props, bro?

Oh yeah, sort of. My bad. Just seemed more hating than propping.

But cool.

I just meant it's sloppy and amateur because it's still really young. The fights always steal the show though. Unless it's Sarah Kaufman doing her best Tim Sylvia 5 round jabfest impression.

[zY|]

I wonder if these two girls are going to scissor after the match.

It'd be a lot cooler if they did.

[poopoo333]

I hope Campbell wins.

[SPX]

This is why I didn't put a bet on Roxy. I was about to actually. grrr

Damn, those are some crazy odds for Roxy for sure.

[MMA_scientist]

women's mma blows gnads. Plus you can't bet on it. 25% of the time, your fighter might be on her period or something.

[SPX]

I just meant it's sloppy and amateur because it's still really young. The fights always steal the show though. Unless it's Sarah Kaufman doing her best Tim Sylvia 5 round jabfest impression.

I hear you.

I think it might also have to something to do with female body mechanics. I don't really have anything scientific to back that up, but I'm just not sure that female fights are ever going to look the same as men's fights.

[zY|]

Whenever I hear 30-27 one way and then it's a split decision, I know there's some mountebankery going on. From now on, I will refer to all split decisions as shit decisions.

[Svino]

[quote="zY|":30u2pl02]
Didn't I just give it props, bro?

Oh yeah, sort of. My bad. Just seemed more hating than propping.

But cool.

I just meant it's sloppy and amateur because it's still really young. The fights always steal the show though. Unless it's Sarah Kaufman doing her best Tim Sylvia 5 round jabfest impression.[/quote:30u2pl02]

Yeah, women's MMA is just a much smaller world so the level of competition isn't there. But women's MMA matches don't look much worse than (say) the first round of TUF fights to enter the house.

I loved that fight though.

[SPX]

women's mma blows gnads. Plus you can't bet on it. 25% of the time, your fighter might be on her period or something.

Okay, my bad, zY.

Obviously I was supposed to save my "hater" comment for this shit.

[zY|]

women's mma blows gnads. Plus you can't bet on it. 25% of the time, your fighter might be on her period or something.

Okay, my bad, zY.

Obviously I was supposed to save my "hater" comment for this shit.
::lmao::

[SPX]

Whenever I hear 30-27 one way and then it's a split decision, I know there's some mountebankery going on. From now on, I will refer to all split decisions as shit decisions.

Believe it or not, I actually talked to Keith Kizer the other day for another article Ultimate MMA wants me to do and we talked extensively about judging. He thinks that some judges are better than others for sure and that not everyone knows what they're doing.

[Mr. IWS]

For the love of thug-jitsu, we need a quick ko here.

[zY|]

Whenever I hear 30-27 one way and then it's a split decision, I know there's some mountebankery going on. From now on, I will refer to all split decisions as shit decisions.

Believe it or not, I actually talked to Keith Kizer the other day for another article Ultimate MMA wants me to do and we talked extensively about judging. He thinks that some judges are better than others for sure and that not everyone knows what they're doing.

Interesting. I'd love to hear more, in another thread or PM if you're allowed. I don't expect he said much of any substance, he is a greasy fucking lawyer after all.

[zY|]

Who the fuck is commentating this shit anyways? Bas Rutten and the douchebag coalition?

[SPX]

Interesting. I'd love to hear more, in another thread or PM if you're allowed. I don't expect he said much of any substance, he is a greasy fucking lawyer after all.

I'll say this shit, dude can talk and talk and talk. I was supposed to get 300 words out of him and I ended up with a recording that went over an hour.

I actually asked him a question that made me think of you: Will we ever get knees to the head of a downed opponent?

He said that there are some techniques that he's just not open to, like soccer kicks. But he said that knees to the head of a downed opponent as well as 12-to-6 elbows seem reasonable to him and that he wants fighters to have every reasonable offensive and defensive weapon. HOWEVER, the doctors they have consulted with give compelling evidence as to why these techniques should not be allowed and after hearing their views they were able to convince him, at least for the time being.

Then he went on an odd--and oddly amusing--rant about spitting. He said that spitting could be used as a weapon to blind your opponent and that as long as neither fighter has hepatitis then it wouldn't have any negative health effects. But he puts it in the same category of soccer kicks . . . there's just no skill involved and it's poor sportsmanship.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't expect he said much of any substance, he is a greasy fucking lawyer after all.

just when it looks like you are having a mild streak of not being totally offensive, you have to go and ruin it.