Bellator 19

[MMA_scientist]

Joe Soto vs. Diego Saraiva
Dan Hornbuckle vs. Steve Carl
Ben Askren vs. Ryan Thomas

lines will probably be out today.

Askren/Thomas is the only competitive fight. I would love to bet on Soto and Hornbuckle, but they will both be -400 or more. I will take either or both less than -400 though. They are both fighting decent opponents though, so i can't use either one for my year long parlay on favorites.

What do you guys think about Askren/Thomas II? I just rewatched the first fight on youtube. I forgot that Thomas had a deep triangle on Askren. I still feel that Askren will win. As more time passes, the more his control will be a factor.

[Mr. IWS]

I was with you on Askren the first time, but to be honest, I was not comfortable the weight that fight was going. Askren looks like is he ripe to get subbed, and Im laying off this time. He didnt control Thomas the way I though he would.

[MMA_scientist]

^^ Yeah, I am not going to bet it unless the line is a lot closer this time.

[MMA_scientist]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/268.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

Soto and Hornbuckle cheap.

6u each @ -415 and -435

[SPX]

Cheap?

[MMA_scientist]

I thought both would be like -600


There is definite value ot Thomas too. Will probably drop .33 there

[MMA_scientist]

How is Askren -550? That is just retarded. He was overvalued last time @ -300... I am definately going to drop .25 onThomas @ +400... that is just silly.

[SPX]

Cheap was your mother on the street corner last night. Not -4XX for an MMA fighter.

[MMA_scientist]

done. done. And done.

SPX: your mom's an mma fighter.

Value is relative... you know that.

[SPX]

Yeah, it's hard for me to lay -4XX on anyone and I know it is for you, too.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah, it's hard for me to lay -4XX on anyone and I know it is for you, too.

I go to -400 all the time. I don't like going over. But since I am chasing, it seems like a good idea. You should chase your losses too. Its the way to go.

[SPX]

You should chase your losses too. Its the way to go.

Well that's where the whole 20-unit bankroll thing came from. . .

[Thewiseman]

Thomas .25u to win 1u

[Ludo]

.25u on Thomas to win .96u
.25u on Carl to win .9u

[MMA_scientist]

These lines are a great example of how crazy the betting public is. If I ever start to doubt that I can beat the public, I will look at these lines.

Askren is not the biggest favorite on the card. Do people not remember that the fight was very competitive, and it was a BS stoppage? Askren wasn't controlling him vert well at all, and was close to being subbed himself... He will probably win, but -535? That is just straight up stupid.

Hornbuckle, on the other hand is fighting a guy that got a gift decision in round one, and was fighting a fighter several tiers below Hornbuckle. Carl is probably going to try to wrestle his way to a decision, which I guess is possible... But Hornbuckle has a slick ground game and very good striking. And he is huge, while Carl is small.

[Ludo]

added .2u to win another .9u on Thomas after watching the first fight.

Final plays:

.25u on Carl to win .9u
.45u on Thomas to win 1.86u

[poopoo333]

5u on Hornbuckle @-450

[Ludo]

Damn you, PP! Your gonna jinx me!

[poopoo333]

Added 1u on Thomas @+450.

[Ludo]

Thats more like it.

[poopoo333]

What the fuck...Hornbuckle is @-325 right now. I got ripped off.

[poopoo333]

Ok -300 now. Who dares me to put another 5u down?

[MMA_scientist]

Ok -300 now. Who dares me to put another 5u down?

I dare you.


I dare you right now. Hronbuckle is gonna rape and murder Carl.

I guess I am going to have to refund my 5dimes, because Hornbucks is still -420 on BM. Add in the gay limit on Moosin, and I am getting hosed here.

[poopoo333]

Dare accepted

Final Plays:
5u on Hornbuckle @-450, 5u on Hornbuckle @-325 ...his line went back up from -300
1u on Thomas @+450... he is going to murder Askren

[zY|]

He's going to MURDER Askren?

[poopoo333]

He's going to MURDER Askren?

Yep, by guillotine.

[MMA_scientist]

Dare accepted

Final Plays:
5u on Hornbuckle @-450, 5u on Hornbuckle @-325 ...his line went back up from -300
1u on Thomas @+450... he is going to murder Askren


Respect.

Tonight, we ride together. 6u on Hornbucks. but only .25 on Thomas. I expect Thomas to lose.

[zY|]

Hornbuckle just ripped the nastiest Kimura I've ever seen on Steve Carl.

[MMA_scientist]

Hornbuckle just ripped the nastiest Kimura I've ever seen on Steve Carl.
Stupid Cardinals game is on, it doesn't air until 9pm here.

Is that kimura for the finish?

[zY|]

[quote="zY|":1hsb0j4f]Hornbuckle just ripped the nastiest Kimura I've ever seen on Steve Carl.
Stupid Cardinals game is on, it doesn't air until 9pm here.

Is that kimura for the finish?[/quote:1hsb0j4f]

Yes. First round submission win for Dan Hornbuckle.

From the bottom, flipped him over into mount with it.

[MMA_scientist]

Nevermind, saw that it was a finish on SD>


Boom. Nice work Poopoo. Accepting dares is always always a good policy.

I foresee that Soto will have a tougher time, but will be no less dominant in a sprawl and brawl dominance.


COMEBACK. Its on.

[zY|]

Askren cutting Thomas' guard to shreds.

[zY|]

I love that Askren, as sloppy as he is, actually attempts to pass instead of sitting there like Joe Warren.

[MMA_scientist]

Joe Warren is gay. Askren will end up being a good fighter, because he is actually trying to add jiu jitsu to his game. I support that mentality.

I am out for now. I want to watch this fight later and I don't want to knwo who wins. Since I know Soto is going to win, I am a happy winner tonight, regardless of this fight.

[zY|]

Ok this fight is becoming very humorous with the grappling sloppiness.

[zY|]

Askren beats Thomas 30-27

[Svino]

I don't think the MMA "Madden Chalkboard" is going to catch on.

[zY|]

Saraiva thinks double wrist control is a fun game and eats an elbow that cuts his face in half. Joe Soto TKO cut stoppage round 1.

And LOL at the telestrater. Jimmy Smith rules.

[poopoo333]

+1.65u

Ryan Thomas sucks.

[MMA_scientist]

+2.56

Only lost .25 on Thomas. WTF was that gameplan?

Sadly, its my best night in about 6 weeks.

COMEBACK. Believe.

[Mr. IWS]

Nice job boys.